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Whoa, hold on. RFK may be right about this one thing in the same way a broken clock happens to occasionally be right, but let's not rush to take away his nutcas

Whoa, hold on. RFK may be right about this one thing in the same way a broken clock happens to occasionally be right, but let's not rush to take away his nutcase title. He has some truly messed up opinions about a variety of topics.

alchemist1e9 2y ago
Like what? are you sure you understand his opinions? Many who finally talk to him directly who thought like you do find out maybe not so crazy. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/14/los_angeles_times_owner_robert_f_kennedy_jr_knows_more_about_the_science_than_most_doctors.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/14/los_angel...
- yakz 2y ago
  I fail to see how your link supports your questioning or your statement, could you explain it? It looks like it's just the opinion of the owner of the Los Angeles Times, a person that some might feel is heavily biased.
  - alchemist1e9 2y ago
    I’ll quote from another comment in this thread: > LA Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong is a doctor and transplant surgeon and invented drugs to fight pancreatic and other forms of cancer. He ACTUALLY talked to RFK Jr. and after listening to him talk and what he had to say instead of relying on mainstream media propaganda, he changed his opinion on him.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  RFK Jr is not a good person, is not a smart person, and we should not attempt to whitewash or legitimize him. He has a complex early life, but his actions today are his own choices. https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-rfk-jr-episodes-198487913/ https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...
  - alchemist1e9 2y ago
    LLM summary for your damning information: Based on the provided transcript, the accusations and criticisms against RFK Jr. focus primarily on: 1. Allegations of Sexual Assault: • Multiple allegations have been reported, including by Vanity Fair. His response to these allegations has been a mixture of acknowledgment and apologizing directly to at least one accuser. 2. Acknowledgment of Past Wrongdoings: • RFK Jr. himself has admitted to having a problematic past, described as “skeletons in the closet,” though these have not been exhaustively detailed in the transcript. 3. Entitlement and Privilege: • Growing up as part of the Kennedy dynasty, RFK Jr. is characterized as having displayed behaviors shaped by immense privilege and a sense of entitlement, including unruly and eccentric conduct during his youth. 4. Controversial Political Views: • While not explicitly detailed in this transcript, RFK Jr.’s political stances (e.g., vaccine skepticism and other fringe views) have been controversial and polarizing, drawing criticism from various quarters. There is no mention in the transcript of more serious accusations, such as criminal activity beyond the sexual assault allegations, nor evidence of deeper scandals. However, the discussion also suggests that there may be more allegations or controversies not covered explicitly in the transcript.
- jjeaff 2y ago
  RFK Jr has frequently and publicly claimed that the side effects and dangers of most all vaccines are worse than the diseases they prevent. There is no legitimate data that even suggests that is true. You can get into the minutia of potential dangers and health effects of vaccines all you want. But when you look at the actual outcomes, like with COVID, the public is far, far better off having taken them and RFK's fear mongering endangers the public health.
blindriver 2y ago
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- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  Dr Oz is a licensed doctor as well. You need to do better than "but but the mainstream media!!!!1"
  - blindriver 2y ago
    Whataboutism isn't an actual defense. I don't know who Dr. Oz is and it has nothing to do with the issue above.
  - Dig1t 2y ago
    Yeah we are not talking about Dr Oz, he has nothing to do with the conversation about food dyes or RFK's policy ideas.
- Dig1t 2y ago
  I agree, the news coverage of what he says vs what he actually says in interviews is very different.
- rcpt 2y ago
  > LA Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong Billionaire Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong who prevented the LA Times staff from publishing their endorsement of Kamala Harris?
- rad_gruchalski 2y ago
  They’re all talking rubbish. Trump said he will finish the war in UA within 24 hours. They are just talking stuff angry people swallow like pelicans. You have elected a bunch of ego driven loonies. Just accept it and hopefully you still get to vote in four years time. What a great time for this planet.
legitster 2y ago
The dude literally got a brainworm from eating roadkill. The idea that people want to take him seriously as a food safety crusader is wild.
- solarpunk 2y ago
  He's not even really a food safety crusader, he's just a vocal proponent of the "whole foods movement". Other than that, he's a former heroin addict Kennedy dynasty failson.
- blindriver 2y ago
  The idea that he got brainworm from roadkill is literally a lie.
  - legitster 2y ago
    I'm being flip, but it's not a lie. He doesn't know where the brainworm came from, and it was revealed later that he has been eating roadkill meat his whole life. Exotic parasites is a known risk when eating roadkill. It's not a difficult connection to make.
    - blindriver 2y ago
      More lies. He didn't eat roadkill. You need to stop. https://apnews.com/article/rfk-new-york-ballot-access-lawsuit-e522e2348e54125420fffe8ca25a0d9f https://apnews.com/article/rfk-new-york-ballot-access-lawsui... Speaking to reporters in a hallway after court ended Wednesday, Kennedy was asked whether he picked up other roadkill. “I’ve been picking up roadkill my whole life. I have a freezer full of it,” he said, eliciting laughter. Kennedy campaign spokesperson Stefanie Spear later said by text that he wasn’t joking. She said that’s how Kennedy — a falconer who trains ravens — feeds his birds. She added that he no longer has the 21 cubic foot (0.59 cubic meter) refrigerator, which had been in New York’s Westchester County suburbs.
      - legitster 2y ago
Dig1t 2y ago
>truly messed up opinions about a variety of topics. I would actually really like to hear what the messed up opinions are, when I've watched interviews with him they've seemed pretty reasonable. He cites sources for basically all the claims he makes.
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  I hesitate to dive into this because I'm really not interested in arguing the nuances of RFK with people on the internet (not you, others). RFK Jr. has a long history of controversial statements regarding COVID, COVID vaccines and being anti-vaccine, or vaccine-skeptical as his supporters like to frame him. For me, one of his most controversial statements in recent memory had to be during a press conference he gave in 2023 when he stated that COVID might have been "ethnically targeted" to "attack Caucasians and Black people" and that "the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese." He tried to defend the statement by citing scientific studies, which is a habit of his that his supporters admire about him. However, actual experts in the field pointed out that his interpretation of the studies was flawed and there was no credible evidence to support the idea that COVID was engineered or had evolved to target or spare certain groups. Sources: 1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-false-claims-covid-19-ethnically-targeted-backlash-antisemitism/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-false-claim... 2. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/19/robert-f-kennedy-jr/covid-19-wasnt-targeted-to-spare-jewish-and-chines/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/19/robert-f-k... 3. https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/media/jake-tapper-rips-rfk-jr-after-health-secretary-nomination/ https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/media/jake-tapper-rips-rfk-jr-...
  - Dig1t 2y ago
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes-2-year-investigation-issues-500-page-final-report-on-lessons-learned-and-the-path-forward/ https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-selec... >COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. >Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research So the US government has concluded that the virus almost certainly came from a lab conducting gain of function research. What is gain of function? Making a virus more lethal. RFKs words: >There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately It DOES impact some races more than others. This is a completely plausible theory. I don’t understand why it’s a crazy idea at all. Why wouldn’t a country trying to make a virus more lethal also try to curve its lethality away from its own people?

alchemist1e9 2y ago

Like what? are you sure you understand his opinions? Many who finally talk to him directly who thought like you do find out maybe not so crazy. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/14/los_angeles_times_owner_robert_f_kennedy_jr_knows_more_about_the_science_than_most_doctors.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/14/los_angel...

yakz 2y ago
I fail to see how your link supports your questioning or your statement, could you explain it? It looks like it's just the opinion of the owner of the Los Angeles Times, a person that some might feel is heavily biased.
- alchemist1e9 2y ago
  I’ll quote from another comment in this thread: > LA Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong is a doctor and transplant surgeon and invented drugs to fight pancreatic and other forms of cancer. He ACTUALLY talked to RFK Jr. and after listening to him talk and what he had to say instead of relying on mainstream media propaganda, he changed his opinion on him.
HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
RFK Jr is not a good person, is not a smart person, and we should not attempt to whitewash or legitimize him. He has a complex early life, but his actions today are his own choices. https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-rfk-jr-episodes-198487913/ https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...
- alchemist1e9 2y ago
  LLM summary for your damning information: Based on the provided transcript, the accusations and criticisms against RFK Jr. focus primarily on: 1. Allegations of Sexual Assault: • Multiple allegations have been reported, including by Vanity Fair. His response to these allegations has been a mixture of acknowledgment and apologizing directly to at least one accuser. 2. Acknowledgment of Past Wrongdoings: • RFK Jr. himself has admitted to having a problematic past, described as “skeletons in the closet,” though these have not been exhaustively detailed in the transcript. 3. Entitlement and Privilege: • Growing up as part of the Kennedy dynasty, RFK Jr. is characterized as having displayed behaviors shaped by immense privilege and a sense of entitlement, including unruly and eccentric conduct during his youth. 4. Controversial Political Views: • While not explicitly detailed in this transcript, RFK Jr.’s political stances (e.g., vaccine skepticism and other fringe views) have been controversial and polarizing, drawing criticism from various quarters. There is no mention in the transcript of more serious accusations, such as criminal activity beyond the sexual assault allegations, nor evidence of deeper scandals. However, the discussion also suggests that there may be more allegations or controversies not covered explicitly in the transcript.
jjeaff 2y ago
RFK Jr has frequently and publicly claimed that the side effects and dangers of most all vaccines are worse than the diseases they prevent. There is no legitimate data that even suggests that is true. You can get into the minutia of potential dangers and health effects of vaccines all you want. But when you look at the actual outcomes, like with COVID, the public is far, far better off having taken them and RFK's fear mongering endangers the public health.

blindriver 2y ago

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HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
Dr Oz is a licensed doctor as well. You need to do better than "but but the mainstream media!!!!1"
- blindriver 2y ago
  Whataboutism isn't an actual defense. I don't know who Dr. Oz is and it has nothing to do with the issue above.
- Dig1t 2y ago
  Yeah we are not talking about Dr Oz, he has nothing to do with the conversation about food dyes or RFK's policy ideas.
Dig1t 2y ago
I agree, the news coverage of what he says vs what he actually says in interviews is very different.
rcpt 2y ago
> LA Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong Billionaire Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong who prevented the LA Times staff from publishing their endorsement of Kamala Harris?
rad_gruchalski 2y ago
They’re all talking rubbish. Trump said he will finish the war in UA within 24 hours. They are just talking stuff angry people swallow like pelicans. You have elected a bunch of ego driven loonies. Just accept it and hopefully you still get to vote in four years time. What a great time for this planet.

legitster 2y ago

The dude literally got a brainworm from eating roadkill. The idea that people want to take him seriously as a food safety crusader is wild.

solarpunk 2y ago
He's not even really a food safety crusader, he's just a vocal proponent of the "whole foods movement". Other than that, he's a former heroin addict Kennedy dynasty failson.
blindriver 2y ago
The idea that he got brainworm from roadkill is literally a lie.
- legitster 2y ago
  I'm being flip, but it's not a lie. He doesn't know where the brainworm came from, and it was revealed later that he has been eating roadkill meat his whole life. Exotic parasites is a known risk when eating roadkill. It's not a difficult connection to make.
  - blindriver 2y ago
    More lies. He didn't eat roadkill. You need to stop. https://apnews.com/article/rfk-new-york-ballot-access-lawsuit-e522e2348e54125420fffe8ca25a0d9f https://apnews.com/article/rfk-new-york-ballot-access-lawsui... Speaking to reporters in a hallway after court ended Wednesday, Kennedy was asked whether he picked up other roadkill. “I’ve been picking up roadkill my whole life. I have a freezer full of it,” he said, eliciting laughter. Kennedy campaign spokesperson Stefanie Spear later said by text that he wasn’t joking. She said that’s how Kennedy — a falconer who trains ravens — feeds his birds. She added that he no longer has the 21 cubic foot (0.59 cubic meter) refrigerator, which had been in New York’s Westchester County suburbs.
    - legitster 2y ago

Dig1t 2y ago

>truly messed up opinions about a variety of topics. I would actually really like to hear what the messed up opinions are, when I've watched interviews with him they've seemed pretty reasonable. He cites sources for basically all the claims he makes.

nozzlegear 2y ago
I hesitate to dive into this because I'm really not interested in arguing the nuances of RFK with people on the internet (not you, others). RFK Jr. has a long history of controversial statements regarding COVID, COVID vaccines and being anti-vaccine, or vaccine-skeptical as his supporters like to frame him. For me, one of his most controversial statements in recent memory had to be during a press conference he gave in 2023 when he stated that COVID might have been "ethnically targeted" to "attack Caucasians and Black people" and that "the people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese." He tried to defend the statement by citing scientific studies, which is a habit of his that his supporters admire about him. However, actual experts in the field pointed out that his interpretation of the studies was flawed and there was no credible evidence to support the idea that COVID was engineered or had evolved to target or spare certain groups. Sources: 1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-false-claims-covid-19-ethnically-targeted-backlash-antisemitism/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-false-claim... 2. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/19/robert-f-kennedy-jr/covid-19-wasnt-targeted-to-spare-jewish-and-chines/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/19/robert-f-k... 3. https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/media/jake-tapper-rips-rfk-jr-after-health-secretary-nomination/ https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/media/jake-tapper-rips-rfk-jr-...
- Dig1t 2y ago
  https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes-2-year-investigation-issues-500-page-final-report-on-lessons-learned-and-the-path-forward/ https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-selec... >COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. >Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research So the US government has concluded that the virus almost certainly came from a lab conducting gain of function research. What is gain of function? Making a virus more lethal. RFKs words: >There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately It DOES impact some races more than others. This is a completely plausible theory. I don’t understand why it’s a crazy idea at all. Why wouldn’t a country trying to make a virus more lethal also try to curve its lethality away from its own people?