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The problem(s) with RTO were manifested even before the mandates: open office plans. Office rents show up on expense reports. So do employee salaries. What doe

The problem(s) with RTO were manifested even before the mandates: open office plans. Office rents show up on expense reports. So do employee salaries. What doesn't? Employee productivity. There are many studies[1][2][3] showing the open office plans are worse for productivity. But lots of companies built them anyway. If the companies want to make an argument for RTO is better for productivity, but they also have open office plans, then it is inconsistent and non-sensical. If you want complete RTO (more than 'hydrid' 2-3 days per week), then you should at least give cubicles, and ideally offices (even if it's 'only' 2-4 person per office). [1] https://hbr.org/2019/11/the-truth-about-open-offices https://hbr.org/2019/11/the-truth-about-open-offices [2] https://business.adobe.com/blog/perspectives/what-science-says-about-open-offices https://business.adobe.com/blog/perspectives/what-science-sa... [3] https://www.rivier.edu/academics/blog-posts/the-price-of-collaboration-open-office-environments-and-employee-productivity/ https://www.rivier.edu/academics/blog-posts/the-price-of-col...

up2isomorphism 2y ago
I actually found cubicles are most useless, they look cramped but you also loose privacy. If I can not get a close office room I would prefer an open space. The problem of the “modern” office space is that they tends to be a demonstration of how a company wants to show to the outsiders instead of actually fulfilling tasks. For examples, a large amount lobby and common areas looks nice, but are not useful at all for completing tasks, i.e writing code or meeting. This is particularly bad when people are required to rto now. Keep in mind, no matter how nice your common area looks like, most of them WON’T want to come if they had a choice.
spacemadness 2y ago
Open office plans are shown to improve corporate masculine energy though which is vital to our productivity or something.

up2isomorphism 2y ago

I actually found cubicles are most useless, they look cramped but you also loose privacy. If I can not get a close office room I would prefer an open space. The problem of the “modern” office space is that they tends to be a demonstration of how a company wants to show to the outsiders instead of actually fulfilling tasks. For examples, a large amount lobby and common areas looks nice, but are not useful at all for completing tasks, i.e writing code or meeting. This is particularly bad when people are required to rto now. Keep in mind, no matter how nice your common area looks like, most of them WON’T want to come if they had a choice.

spacemadness 2y ago

Open office plans are shown to improve corporate masculine energy though which is vital to our productivity or something.