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It doesn't need to be better than TikTok though, just better than xiaohongshu

by donatj 2y ago

johnisgood 2y ago
Maybe people developed a fetish for Chinese.
- pjc50 2y ago
  Would make a change from fetish for Japan.
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    Or South Korea. :D
  - IncreasePosts 2y ago
    You must be 40. Japanese fetish is only for weirdos, whereas 15% of young girls will say their favorite band is a South Korean one.
    - rafram 2y ago
      I don't think that's true anymore. In NYC, at least, the people who are into Japanese culture tend to be black/Hispanic teenage girls, not the classic "basement-dwelling white guy" stereotype. Visit a big Japanese store like Kinokuniya or Bookoff sometime if you have one in your area - I think you'll be surprised!
- delecti 2y ago
  "Fetish" is the wrong way to look at it, but it does seem connected. The explanation I've seen is basically a unified "fuck you, I won't do what you tell me, so instead I'm going to give my data to China even harder". It's a generation of kids who grew up (mostly correctly) assuming all of their data was already all controlled by corporations in league with the government. Worrying about data privacy is too quaint to even consider. There's of course a chance of algorithmic meddling, nudging people to a different Chinese app, but I think spite is a far simpler answer.
  - mempko 2y ago
    I live in the US. I mean, if I give my data to China, what are they going to do, arrest me? Oh wait no, that's if I give my data to Google or Meta.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > if I give my data to China, what are they going to do, arrest me? Flip the question around to your familiar villain. You’re a U.S. intelligence chief, and have a trove of embarrassing—possibly worse—information about ordinary Chinese citizens. How can you use this to make them useful to you?
      - delecti 2y ago
        The options available to that intelligence chief in your scenario are probably bad for China, but are they any worse for those citizens than what China's own government could do to those citizens? I kinda get why the US is banning tiktok, I don't get why you'd expect most of tiktok's users to care about those reasons.
        homebrewer 2y ago
        You only need to look at the news for how many Russian citizens are tricked by Ukrainian telephone con-men into giving away all their money and then setting fire to banks/trains/various military installations in the hope of getting it back. I'm already expecting to see that in the US and elsewhere when the inevitable happens. Now imagine the enemy government has dirt on most of your citizens, how easier would all of this be?
        delecti 2y ago
        Your comment just reiterates the same point which I was already questioning. My response to JumpCrisscross already applies perfectly to your comment.
        mynameisvlad 2y ago

It doesn't need to be better than TikTok though, just better than xiaohongshu

by donatj 2y ago

It doesn't need to be better than TikTok though, just better than xiaohongshu

johnisgood 2y ago

Maybe people developed a fetish for Chinese.

pjc50 2y ago
Would make a change from fetish for Japan.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  Or South Korea. :D
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  You must be 40. Japanese fetish is only for weirdos, whereas 15% of young girls will say their favorite band is a South Korean one.
  - rafram 2y ago
    I don't think that's true anymore. In NYC, at least, the people who are into Japanese culture tend to be black/Hispanic teenage girls, not the classic "basement-dwelling white guy" stereotype. Visit a big Japanese store like Kinokuniya or Bookoff sometime if you have one in your area - I think you'll be surprised!
delecti 2y ago
"Fetish" is the wrong way to look at it, but it does seem connected. The explanation I've seen is basically a unified "fuck you, I won't do what you tell me, so instead I'm going to give my data to China even harder". It's a generation of kids who grew up (mostly correctly) assuming all of their data was already all controlled by corporations in league with the government. Worrying about data privacy is too quaint to even consider. There's of course a chance of algorithmic meddling, nudging people to a different Chinese app, but I think spite is a far simpler answer.
- mempko 2y ago
  I live in the US. I mean, if I give my data to China, what are they going to do, arrest me? Oh wait no, that's if I give my data to Google or Meta.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > if I give my data to China, what are they going to do, arrest me? Flip the question around to your familiar villain. You’re a U.S. intelligence chief, and have a trove of embarrassing—possibly worse—information about ordinary Chinese citizens. How can you use this to make them useful to you?
    - delecti 2y ago
      The options available to that intelligence chief in your scenario are probably bad for China, but are they any worse for those citizens than what China's own government could do to those citizens? I kinda get why the US is banning tiktok, I don't get why you'd expect most of tiktok's users to care about those reasons.
      - homebrewer 2y ago
        You only need to look at the news for how many Russian citizens are tricked by Ukrainian telephone con-men into giving away all their money and then setting fire to banks/trains/various military installations in the hope of getting it back. I'm already expecting to see that in the US and elsewhere when the inevitable happens. Now imagine the enemy government has dirt on most of your citizens, how easier would all of this be?
        delecti 2y ago
        Your comment just reiterates the same point which I was already questioning. My response to JumpCrisscross already applies perfectly to your comment.
        mynameisvlad 2y ago