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If you mean the Intel factory, this is delayed by 2 years. If it ever will come.. And the other planed Wolfspeed factory is cancelled completely.

ulfw 2y ago
Both will never come. For obvious reasons.
- rajamaka 2y ago
  What are the obvious reasons?
  - Cumpiler69 2y ago
    I guess the expensive energy in Germany, lots of red tape and nimbyism, and not enough state subsidies which is what these companies were hoping for when they were fishing for places to open fabs.
    - kuschkufan 2y ago
      Well, your guess is off the mark.
      - Cumpiler69 2y ago
        Care to explain why?
    - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
      There's also the fact that every single fab opened outside of Taiwan reduces Taiwan's national security.
      - swarnie 2y ago
        Is Taiwan's national security the major concern here? I assumed everyone was just bluffing at that until they can get their own supply. Getting dragging in to an East China unification war because you can't squeeze lighting in to rocks on time is a tragedy.
        whimsicalism 2y ago
        > East China unification war Are you from China? I find this phraseology very odd
        PittleyDunkin 2y ago
        Who cares? the situation is the same regardless: china wants taiwan, taiwan doesn't want to be a part of china, and the single largest factor blocking china from taking taiwan is TSMC. Not the american navy, not sanctions, not anything else. If TSMC weren't a factor they could simply destroy the island and move in.
        whimsicalism 2y ago
        I care because I am interested in how language reflects and shapes beliefs and I have never seen that phrase before.
        mjh2539 2y ago
        This is too simplistic. The ROC has not had any formal military alliance with the United States since 1979. TSMC was not founded until 1987, didn't start producing chips until 1993. It was not even publicly traded until 1994 (and that was only on the Taiwanese stock exchange; it was listed on the NYSE in 1997). The reason the PRC hasn't done it is because it would make no sense politically or economically. They have a lot more to lose and a lot less to gain than Russia did in 2014 (Sevastopol was/is seen as integral to the Russian navy...there is no parallel with Taiwan as the PRC has plenty of excellent ports on the mainland). And the continued existence of Taiwan gives the PRC a convenient excuse to sabre-rattle.

ulfw 2y ago

Both will never come. For obvious reasons.

rajamaka 2y ago
What are the obvious reasons?
- Cumpiler69 2y ago
  I guess the expensive energy in Germany, lots of red tape and nimbyism, and not enough state subsidies which is what these companies were hoping for when they were fishing for places to open fabs.
  - kuschkufan 2y ago
    Well, your guess is off the mark.
    - Cumpiler69 2y ago
      Care to explain why?
  - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
    There's also the fact that every single fab opened outside of Taiwan reduces Taiwan's national security.
    - swarnie 2y ago
      Is Taiwan's national security the major concern here? I assumed everyone was just bluffing at that until they can get their own supply. Getting dragging in to an East China unification war because you can't squeeze lighting in to rocks on time is a tragedy.
      - whimsicalism 2y ago
        > East China unification war Are you from China? I find this phraseology very odd
        PittleyDunkin 2y ago
        Who cares? the situation is the same regardless: china wants taiwan, taiwan doesn't want to be a part of china, and the single largest factor blocking china from taking taiwan is TSMC. Not the american navy, not sanctions, not anything else. If TSMC weren't a factor they could simply destroy the island and move in.
        whimsicalism 2y ago
        I care because I am interested in how language reflects and shapes beliefs and I have never seen that phrase before.
        mjh2539 2y ago
        This is too simplistic. The ROC has not had any formal military alliance with the United States since 1979. TSMC was not founded until 1987, didn't start producing chips until 1993. It was not even publicly traded until 1994 (and that was only on the Taiwanese stock exchange; it was listed on the NYSE in 1997). The reason the PRC hasn't done it is because it would make no sense politically or economically. They have a lot more to lose and a lot less to gain than Russia did in 2014 (Sevastopol was/is seen as integral to the Russian navy...there is no parallel with Taiwan as the PRC has plenty of excellent ports on the mainland). And the continued existence of Taiwan gives the PRC a convenient excuse to sabre-rattle.