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Hitler was elected too. He then destroyed democracy while not actually breaking any laws.

• andrewinardeer 2y ago
  I wasn't expecting Godwin's Law to be involved so quickly.
  • beej71 2y ago
    There are a couple right-wing pundits that ring a bell on their podcast every time someone mentions Hitler. It's an instant dismissal. But at some point, the bell has to stop, right? Let's say for the sake of example that the President of the US decides that a certain ethnic and/or religious group needs to be sent to guarded camps to be imprisoned. Someone might say, rightly, "Hey, Hitler did this! Maybe we should think twice!" Ding! Your argument is dismissed! ...Or does the comment actually get acknowledged? I'm curious to find where we'll put that line as a country.
• starfezzy 2y ago
  > Trump is literally Hitler Like he said, "It's getting tedious to see the hysterics." Why didn't Trump seize power during multiple key opportunities in his term (soon after inauguration when his supporters and his rhetoric were at their most right-wing and Republicans held everything, or during the pandemic)? Why is Trump such a fan of Israel and their American counterparts? I think uncle H would not approve of your comparison.
  • 9283409232 2y ago
    Trump and first his administration were incompetent. He has a much tighter ship this time around.
    • andrewflnr 2y ago
      Mercifully, lol no.
  • M95D 2y ago
    My reply is a counter-argument to @southernplaces7's opinion that elections, as a means by which democracy works, can't be bad for democracy itself. They can, and Hitler proved it.
• southernplaces7 2y ago
  Hitler wasn't elected. He was appointed as chancellor by the president he tried to beat in elections, none of which he ever won with enough of a margin to be elected president. That little bit of pedantry aside, the circumstances and central philosophies (such as they were) of the Hitler dictatorship and factors leading up to it are so different from the circumstances of Trumps presidency that comparing them is mostly crap. Also, Trump has actually been elected, in a fairly functional, generally working as designed process that did what it was made to do. Whether you like him or not, his winning this election was exactly the opposite of democracy being broken. It was an affirmation of the process, in which a maverick, newcomer politician was able to win once despite disdain not only from virtually all of the opposition and much of the media but also even from those within the very party he represented, and then later secure a second victory in which he reshaped the political landscape around him and the party that had formerly only grudgingly accepted him. I can't at all see how that's an example of supposed democratic process failure.