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I agree that Neo-Nazi makes no sense but I’ll confess to being kind of confused by that PG quote. He’s using unfavorable language but what he seems to be descri

I agree that Neo-Nazi makes no sense but I’ll confess to being kind of confused by that PG quote. He’s using unfavorable language but what he seems to be describing is a person with absolute moral standards who calls out people who violate them. …is that supposed to be a bad thing? “Can’t we all be a little more morally relative” isn’t PG’s most inspiring rallying cry. It’s incredible to compare the statements made by prominent figures (including tech CEOs) in the aftermath of Jan 6th and what you hear them say today. All about a man who hasn’t really changed in any meaningful way or expressed any remorse for actions considered unforgivable four years ago. The reasons why are pretty obvious, I’m no rube, I get that we’re all self-motivated at the end of the day. But at least own it rather than complain about the people who point out the hypocrisy.

lazide 2y ago
It is when it’s a giant performative shame piece, like this attorney seems to be doing. If they just quit, instead of making a giant public article calling their prior client a Neo Nazi, I doubt the PG quote would apply. Especially since, of all people, an attorney doing this is just ridiculous. “Gambling? In my establishment? That’s impossible!”
- theossuary 2y ago
  The irony is the same could be said about the PG article; why didn't he just quietly distance himself, instead of having to make a big public spectacle? Writing an entire blog post on "woke" is the definition of virtue signaling. And wrt to the neo-Nazi accusation, you know what they say: what do they call nine people sitting at a table with a Nazi? Ten Nazis.
  - celdon25 2y ago
    > Writing an entire blog post on "woke" is the definition of virtue signaling. A bit more nuanced than that, and I think you're technically wrong. Writing a serious piece to an audience that is already there to seek out opinions from that individual known to be opinionated, is not the same as shoving opinions in people's faces when they least expect it, and/or in a sneaky off-topic way. > And wrt to the neo-Nazi accusation, you know what they say: what do they call nine people sitting at a table with a Nazi? Ten Nazis. Another great way to make 10 nazis out of 9 is to water down the definition of the word and to apply it judiciously to everyone who disagrees with you or is even simply willing to hear certain opinions that you strongly disagree with (whether they are right or wrong is irrelevant, the nazi in that situation is you).
    - theossuary 2y ago
      > Writing a serious piece to an audience that is already there to seek out opinions from that individual I certainly didn't seek out his opinion on culture war topics. The actual nuanced take would be: A business writer with no political knowledge decides to weigh in on politics in a clearly performative way. > whether they are right or wrong is irrelevant, the nazi in that situation is you Ther irony hurts, you claim calling others a Nazi for associating and supporting Nazis is wrong, but I'm also actually the Nazi for saying it? What happened to free speech?
      - celdon25 2y ago
        > A business writer with no political knowledge decides to weigh in on politics in a clearly performative way. Um, no. Wokeism is definitely within his wheelhouse as a VC, as it plays a big role in corporate policies, and macro market conditions, even in tech. > associating and supporting Nazis is wrong That wasn't your original quote, you mentioned seating positions. Unless you just mistakenly left out the part about it being in a prison I don't see how that original statement makes sense.
- Kbelicius 2y ago
  > performative shame piece, like this attorney seems to be doing. How is it performative when there is actually an action behind it?
  - lazide 2y ago
    Fair point - performative would be continuing to be their attorney. Virtue signaling is probably more accurate, as a sibling comment noted.
    - giraffe_lady 2y ago
      Taking concrete professional action in line with and motivated by your personal values is virtue signaling? Is there a correct way you want people to model and yes, signal, the prosocial values that they want to reproduce in the world?
      - lazide 2y ago
        Where does the LinkedIn post fit in?
        deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
      - TheCoelacanth 2y ago
        Publicly kick a puppy while you're announcing your action. That way you can make sure that you don't get any reputation benefits from the action.
        lazide 2y ago
        Personally, I take my cans out of the recycling bin and throw them in the trash while staring my neighbors in the eyes.
    - angoragoats 2y ago

lazide 2y ago

It is when it’s a giant performative shame piece, like this attorney seems to be doing. If they just quit, instead of making a giant public article calling their prior client a Neo Nazi, I doubt the PG quote would apply. Especially since, of all people, an attorney doing this is just ridiculous. “Gambling? In my establishment? That’s impossible!”

theossuary 2y ago
The irony is the same could be said about the PG article; why didn't he just quietly distance himself, instead of having to make a big public spectacle? Writing an entire blog post on "woke" is the definition of virtue signaling. And wrt to the neo-Nazi accusation, you know what they say: what do they call nine people sitting at a table with a Nazi? Ten Nazis.
- celdon25 2y ago
  > Writing an entire blog post on "woke" is the definition of virtue signaling. A bit more nuanced than that, and I think you're technically wrong. Writing a serious piece to an audience that is already there to seek out opinions from that individual known to be opinionated, is not the same as shoving opinions in people's faces when they least expect it, and/or in a sneaky off-topic way. > And wrt to the neo-Nazi accusation, you know what they say: what do they call nine people sitting at a table with a Nazi? Ten Nazis. Another great way to make 10 nazis out of 9 is to water down the definition of the word and to apply it judiciously to everyone who disagrees with you or is even simply willing to hear certain opinions that you strongly disagree with (whether they are right or wrong is irrelevant, the nazi in that situation is you).
  - theossuary 2y ago
    > Writing a serious piece to an audience that is already there to seek out opinions from that individual I certainly didn't seek out his opinion on culture war topics. The actual nuanced take would be: A business writer with no political knowledge decides to weigh in on politics in a clearly performative way. > whether they are right or wrong is irrelevant, the nazi in that situation is you Ther irony hurts, you claim calling others a Nazi for associating and supporting Nazis is wrong, but I'm also actually the Nazi for saying it? What happened to free speech?
    - celdon25 2y ago
      > A business writer with no political knowledge decides to weigh in on politics in a clearly performative way. Um, no. Wokeism is definitely within his wheelhouse as a VC, as it plays a big role in corporate policies, and macro market conditions, even in tech. > associating and supporting Nazis is wrong That wasn't your original quote, you mentioned seating positions. Unless you just mistakenly left out the part about it being in a prison I don't see how that original statement makes sense.
Kbelicius 2y ago
> performative shame piece, like this attorney seems to be doing. How is it performative when there is actually an action behind it?
- lazide 2y ago
  Fair point - performative would be continuing to be their attorney. Virtue signaling is probably more accurate, as a sibling comment noted.
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    Taking concrete professional action in line with and motivated by your personal values is virtue signaling? Is there a correct way you want people to model and yes, signal, the prosocial values that they want to reproduce in the world?
    - lazide 2y ago
      Where does the LinkedIn post fit in?
      - deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
    - TheCoelacanth 2y ago
      Publicly kick a puppy while you're announcing your action. That way you can make sure that you don't get any reputation benefits from the action.
      - lazide 2y ago
        Personally, I take my cans out of the recycling bin and throw them in the trash while staring my neighbors in the eyes.
  - angoragoats 2y ago