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Brazil says Meta hate speech policy changes do not fit with local law

23 points by taimurkazmi 2y ago

WhereIsTheTruth 2y ago
Typical case of CIA spreading propaganda to create civil unrest all around the world Relevant: "Come to the ‘war cry party’: How social media helped drive mayhem in Brazil Researchers detected a surge in aggressive rhetoric from election denialists in far-right channels online ahead of Sunday’s rioting" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/01/08/brazil-bolsanaro-twitter-facebook/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/01/08/brazil-... and https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562433/Facebook-riddled-ex-CIA-agents-ex-FBI-agents-work-Twitter.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562433/Facebook-r... and the classic: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...
- matheusmoreira 2y ago
  Biden's CIA guy told our former president to stop questioning the voting machines. You're claiming they're now they're spreading propaganda about election denialism? I just wonder what their real objective is. They helped put our current president in jail a long time ago by basically delivering a lot of evidence on a silver platter. It led to Bolsonaro's election, and to said "denialism". What's the long term objective?
ImJamal 2y ago
> The government did not immediately clarify which aspects of Meta's policy might be illegal, but said the latest changes "could represent fertile ground for the violation of laws that protect fundamental rights of Brazilian citizens." I hate this sort of authoritarian double speak. Expanding the speech you can say could violate fundamental rights?
- krapp 2y ago
  I mean, yes? It's possible to "expand the speech you can say" on an American social media platform in ways which violate American free speech laws as well. American free speech is more lenient than elsewhere but it isn't, contrary to popular belief, absolute. And speaking of doublespeak, the quote you posted says "violation of laws that protect fundamental rights," not "violation of fundamental rights."
- owebmaster 2y ago
  isn’t authoritarian the platform that suddenly decides to change by their own how billions of people can or don’ cannot talk? it’s time to remove such power from them
- xinayder 2y ago
  The Supreme Court is ruling in the next days whether platforms are liable for hate speech by their users. They are going to rule on this possible interpretation of an article from the Marco Civil law from 2014. Perhaps this is what the government is waiting for, but from what we've seen so far with the Musk x Moraes fight is, Zuckerberg should think twice before removing any hate speech and fake news safeguards his platforms have, otherwise they will be banned from operating in the country. Some analysts from the supreme court also said that the end of this fact checking program can be considered as a violation of the internet law in Brazil [0] Besides, the solicitor's general office is going to hold a public hearing about the changes to Meta's policies [1] [0] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/luisa-martins/politica/fim-de-checagem-no-brasil-violaria-marco-civil-dizem-fontes/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/luisa-martins/politica/fi... [1] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/agu-adia-audiencia-publica-sobre-efeitos-de-novas-politicas-da-meta/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/agu-adia-audiencia-pub... And to answer your question, they are not just expanding the speech. Don't mistake free speech with freedom of aggression, and also keep in mind Brazil is not a lawless world like the US is, we are more civil than that.
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- vitorgrs 2y ago

23 points by taimurkazmi 2y ago

Typical case of CIA spreading propaganda to create civil unrest all around the world Relevant: "Come to the ‘war cry party’: How social media helped drive mayhem in Brazil Researchers detected a surge in aggressive rhetoric from election denialists in far-right channels online ahead of Sunday’s rioting" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/01/08/brazil-bolsanaro-twitter-facebook/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/01/08/brazil-... and https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562433/Facebook-riddled-ex-CIA-agents-ex-FBI-agents-work-Twitter.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562433/Facebook-r... and the classic: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

matheusmoreira 2y ago
Biden's CIA guy told our former president to stop questioning the voting machines. You're claiming they're now they're spreading propaganda about election denialism? I just wonder what their real objective is. They helped put our current president in jail a long time ago by basically delivering a lot of evidence on a silver platter. It led to Bolsonaro's election, and to said "denialism". What's the long term objective?

ImJamal 2y ago

> The government did not immediately clarify which aspects of Meta's policy might be illegal, but said the latest changes "could represent fertile ground for the violation of laws that protect fundamental rights of Brazilian citizens." I hate this sort of authoritarian double speak. Expanding the speech you can say could violate fundamental rights?

krapp 2y ago
I mean, yes? It's possible to "expand the speech you can say" on an American social media platform in ways which violate American free speech laws as well. American free speech is more lenient than elsewhere but it isn't, contrary to popular belief, absolute. And speaking of doublespeak, the quote you posted says "violation of laws that protect fundamental rights," not "violation of fundamental rights."
owebmaster 2y ago
isn’t authoritarian the platform that suddenly decides to change by their own how billions of people can or don’ cannot talk? it’s time to remove such power from them
xinayder 2y ago
The Supreme Court is ruling in the next days whether platforms are liable for hate speech by their users. They are going to rule on this possible interpretation of an article from the Marco Civil law from 2014. Perhaps this is what the government is waiting for, but from what we've seen so far with the Musk x Moraes fight is, Zuckerberg should think twice before removing any hate speech and fake news safeguards his platforms have, otherwise they will be banned from operating in the country. Some analysts from the supreme court also said that the end of this fact checking program can be considered as a violation of the internet law in Brazil [0] Besides, the solicitor's general office is going to hold a public hearing about the changes to Meta's policies [1] [0] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/luisa-martins/politica/fim-de-checagem-no-brasil-violaria-marco-civil-dizem-fontes/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/blogs/luisa-martins/politica/fi... [1] https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/agu-adia-audiencia-publica-sobre-efeitos-de-novas-politicas-da-meta/ https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/agu-adia-audiencia-pub... And to answer your question, they are not just expanding the speech. Don't mistake free speech with freedom of aggression, and also keep in mind Brazil is not a lawless world like the US is, we are more civil than that.
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vitorgrs 2y ago