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Men have boobs too, and some men have big boobs (often referred to as moobs). This just shows that people can get angry at any and everything. Sexist? Only i

by watty 14y ago

Men have boobs too, and some men have big boobs (often referred to as moobs). This just shows that people can get angry at any and everything. Sexist? Only if you want it to be.

nicholassmith 14y ago
It's vaguely sexist, but primarily it's just really immature and smacks of the boys club mentality.
- jack-r-abbit 14y ago
  "Big Boobs" is not a boys club. Women are welcome. And many woman are into big boobs (either their own or those of others). What is sexist is to grip a notion that only men are capable of being immature or into big boobs. Not to mention that thinking women can't be into big boobs kind of sounds homophobic. Hey look... two can play the lets overreact and haphazardly toss around labels game. :)
  - demewmew 14y ago
    I think you're missing the point. It doesn't matter whether or not I like big boobs, or whether or not I like childish humor. If I'm interacting with people in a professional or collaborative context, and I employ childish humor, it's totally reasonable for people to consider me unprofessional / a person with poor boundaries, and to find me difficult to work with. And so they probably aren't going to work with me. That's the issue, and most of the research on retention of minorities in industry supports that people leave or choose not to participate in the first place due to behavior like this.
    - jack-r-abbit 14y ago
      Agreed. Oh wait... but... but... being "unprofessional" or having "poor boundaries" is a far cry from "sexist". Labels matter... getting them right does too.
      - demewmew 14y ago
        Who used the term "sexist"? Not mjg, and the BBC article only mentions it in terms of the ensuing debate. I have no doubt that mjg avoided using it, in part, because people seize upon it to derail the discussion, as you seem to be doing. Guess what - labels don't matter to people who don't feel welcome. They're just going to leave, and while some people don't care, others would like this field to be a bit more welcoming to others, and once again, that's why this matters.

by watty 14y ago

Men have boobs too, and some men have big boobs (often referred to as moobs). This just shows that people can get angry at any and everything. Sexist? Only if you want it to be.

nicholassmith 14y ago

It's vaguely sexist, but primarily it's just really immature and smacks of the boys club mentality.

jack-r-abbit 14y ago
"Big Boobs" is not a boys club. Women are welcome. And many woman are into big boobs (either their own or those of others). What is sexist is to grip a notion that only men are capable of being immature or into big boobs. Not to mention that thinking women can't be into big boobs kind of sounds homophobic. Hey look... two can play the lets overreact and haphazardly toss around labels game. :)
- demewmew 14y ago
  I think you're missing the point. It doesn't matter whether or not I like big boobs, or whether or not I like childish humor. If I'm interacting with people in a professional or collaborative context, and I employ childish humor, it's totally reasonable for people to consider me unprofessional / a person with poor boundaries, and to find me difficult to work with. And so they probably aren't going to work with me. That's the issue, and most of the research on retention of minorities in industry supports that people leave or choose not to participate in the first place due to behavior like this.
  - jack-r-abbit 14y ago
    Agreed. Oh wait... but... but... being "unprofessional" or having "poor boundaries" is a far cry from "sexist". Labels matter... getting them right does too.
    - demewmew 14y ago
      Who used the term "sexist"? Not mjg, and the BBC article only mentions it in terms of the ensuing debate. I have no doubt that mjg avoided using it, in part, because people seize upon it to derail the discussion, as you seem to be doing. Guess what - labels don't matter to people who don't feel welcome. They're just going to leave, and while some people don't care, others would like this field to be a bit more welcoming to others, and once again, that's why this matters.