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> Left strategy has been terrible for years. That's one of the consequences of the Woke movement. Far too much political capital was expended on niche issues. G

> Left strategy has been terrible for years. That's one of the consequences of the Woke movement. Far too much political capital was expended on niche issues. Gays are 3% of the US population. Trans are 0.3% of the US population. Can't win an election catering to those groups. This isn't the left's strategy. It's the right's. The right targets these small groups because they know we won't let them be attacked. We will push back. It makes it very easy to paint the left as trying to cater to LGBT folk, but that's nonsense that only sells to those completely out of the loop. Which is unfortunately most of the US electorate. And it's not about it being a strategy. It's about being an ally against bigotry. It takes a really fucked up person to abandon millions of people to increased discrimination because you think it'll help your polling with middle America.

eplit 2y ago
What about bigotry against women? That is the actual effect of pro-trans policy. The right capitalized on that because the left was too blinded by ideology to see the harm caused to women.
- tstrimple 2y ago
  More nonsense. Trans women being allowed to exist in peace does not harm women and is in no way bigotry.
  - eplit 2y ago
    Yet these males are in women's prisons, women's shelters, women's sports, in social spaces intended for lesbians, and more. They're attempting to redefine "woman" everywhere they can, so they can impose themselves everywhere that was supposed to be female-only. They're getting law and policy rewritten to enforce this. That's not existing in peace is it, it's an unwelcome assertion of male dominance over women.
    - tstrimple 2y ago
      You’ve not established that at all. Just spewed more unsupported nonsense. It’s not trans folk women have to worry about. Just like it isn’t drag queens. All this abuse you claim simply doesn’t exist in any meaningful numbers. If it did, it should be easy to show your supporting data. Any excuse to be hateful and exclusionary I guess.
      - eplit 2y ago
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        tstrimple 2y ago
        What a pathetic response. Across the entire world bigots have managed to scrape together a few hundred examples assuming they are even real? This is why bigots like you are driving people to suicide with your blind hate? And what kind of weirdo creates a website dedicated to things like this? What kind of weirdo is familiar with it and thinks it represents something valid? Since you like lists so much and place so much value on them, I wonder how you can support conservative politicians considering how many of them are pedophiles and rapists? https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/8/2252541/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-53 https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/8/2252541/-Republica... There are FAR more Republican sexual predators than there are "males stealing sports wins from females" in your list. And your list is international while mine is just for the US. So Republican sex pests must be much more of a concern for you right? Or is it only wrong to steal a sports victory from a woman and not to rape her and then force her to carry the baby to term?
        eplit 2y ago
        It's a website created by feminist women to document the effect on female athletes of male-inclusive policy in women's sport. Again, not hateful - just pointing out the problem. As I mentioned above, this is only one area of many where women are disadvantaged and harmed by such policy. Another is women's prisons. In some jurisdictions, male inmates are allowed to transfer to the female prison estate if they claim to have a so-called "female gender identity". In every prison system that has introduced this, female prisoners have been sexually assaulted, raped and even impregnated by these males. Some examples: - https://4w.pub/male-inmate-charged-with-raping-woman-inside-california-womens-prison-cdcr-confirms-pregnancy https://4w.pub/male-inmate-charged-with-raping-woman-inside-... - https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgender-rikers-inmate-gets-7-years-for-raping-female-prisoner https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgender-rikers-inmate-gets... - https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsuit-female-prisoner-says-she-was-raped-transgender-inmate https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsuit-female-prisoner-say... It is clear that this policy has had a horrendous impact on women prisoners. Do you agree that politicians on the left made a grave error of judgement, to say the least, in supporting and promoting it? Criticizing the left does not imply endorsement of the right. Why do you assume I support conservative politicians? Actually I've never voted for one in my life, and don't intend to. I don't support their policy on banning abortion either. That list you linked is very relevant to my point, however, in that every single abuser on there is male. It's the same problem I'm talking about above.

eplit 2y ago

What about bigotry against women? That is the actual effect of pro-trans policy. The right capitalized on that because the left was too blinded by ideology to see the harm caused to women.

tstrimple 2y ago
More nonsense. Trans women being allowed to exist in peace does not harm women and is in no way bigotry.
- eplit 2y ago
  Yet these males are in women's prisons, women's shelters, women's sports, in social spaces intended for lesbians, and more. They're attempting to redefine "woman" everywhere they can, so they can impose themselves everywhere that was supposed to be female-only. They're getting law and policy rewritten to enforce this. That's not existing in peace is it, it's an unwelcome assertion of male dominance over women.
  - tstrimple 2y ago
    You’ve not established that at all. Just spewed more unsupported nonsense. It’s not trans folk women have to worry about. Just like it isn’t drag queens. All this abuse you claim simply doesn’t exist in any meaningful numbers. If it did, it should be easy to show your supporting data. Any excuse to be hateful and exclusionary I guess.
    - eplit 2y ago
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      - tstrimple 2y ago
        What a pathetic response. Across the entire world bigots have managed to scrape together a few hundred examples assuming they are even real? This is why bigots like you are driving people to suicide with your blind hate? And what kind of weirdo creates a website dedicated to things like this? What kind of weirdo is familiar with it and thinks it represents something valid? Since you like lists so much and place so much value on them, I wonder how you can support conservative politicians considering how many of them are pedophiles and rapists? https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/8/2252541/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-53 https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/8/2252541/-Republica... There are FAR more Republican sexual predators than there are "males stealing sports wins from females" in your list. And your list is international while mine is just for the US. So Republican sex pests must be much more of a concern for you right? Or is it only wrong to steal a sports victory from a woman and not to rape her and then force her to carry the baby to term?
        eplit 2y ago
        It's a website created by feminist women to document the effect on female athletes of male-inclusive policy in women's sport. Again, not hateful - just pointing out the problem. As I mentioned above, this is only one area of many where women are disadvantaged and harmed by such policy. Another is women's prisons. In some jurisdictions, male inmates are allowed to transfer to the female prison estate if they claim to have a so-called "female gender identity". In every prison system that has introduced this, female prisoners have been sexually assaulted, raped and even impregnated by these males. Some examples: - https://4w.pub/male-inmate-charged-with-raping-woman-inside-california-womens-prison-cdcr-confirms-pregnancy https://4w.pub/male-inmate-charged-with-raping-woman-inside-... - https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgender-rikers-inmate-gets-7-years-for-raping-female-prisoner https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgender-rikers-inmate-gets... - https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsuit-female-prisoner-says-she-was-raped-transgender-inmate https://news.wttw.com/2020/02/19/lawsuit-female-prisoner-say... It is clear that this policy has had a horrendous impact on women prisoners. Do you agree that politicians on the left made a grave error of judgement, to say the least, in supporting and promoting it? Criticizing the left does not imply endorsement of the right. Why do you assume I support conservative politicians? Actually I've never voted for one in my life, and don't intend to. I don't support their policy on banning abortion either. That list you linked is very relevant to my point, however, in that every single abuser on there is male. It's the same problem I'm talking about above.