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> The goal wasn't to give them a hug. Just because we sometimes execute criminals doesn't mean there's something wrong with WANTED posters. > Prime Minister,

> The goal wasn't to give them a hug. Just because we sometimes execute criminals doesn't mean there's something wrong with WANTED posters. > Prime Minister, President, Head of Tribal Affairs, Governor of Basra... would we consider these legitimate military targets if someone hit our equivalents? If we were at war? Sure. And if we weren't at war, we would be afterward. Do you think Putin and Zelensky aren't doing everything they can to blow each other up?

ceejayoz 2y ago
> If we were at war? Sure. And if we weren't at war, we would be afterward. Throughout the Iraq and Afghan wars, we deemed combat actions by insurgent groups to be terrorism, even if entirely against military targets. Hell, the guy who threw his shoe at Bush got three years in jail. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_shoe-throwing_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_shoe-throwing_i... > Do you think Putin and Zelensky aren't doing everything they can to blow each other up? I don't, really. I think Ukraine avoids targeting Putin directly because it'd lead to serious retalliation (doubly so if unsuccessful); I think Putin avoids targeting Zelensky these days as it'd make him a martyr.
- stickfigure 2y ago
  > I don't, really. I think Ukraine avoids targeting Putin directly because it'd lead to serious retalliation (doubly so if unsuccessful); I think Putin avoids targeting Zelensky these days as it'd make him a martyr. You are naive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volo... Considering how famously paranoid Putin is, I doubt the Ukrainians get much opportunity. There's not a doubt in my mind they would take it if they could. What are the Russians going to do, invade?
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    You’ll note that the official ones were all at the start, where a decapitation strike early might have helped. Once he became a national hero for staying that option dried up. The Ukrainians could hit the Kremlin with current drones, having hit targets in Moscow already. That they don’t is a deliberate calculation. No one wants to discover Putin’s genuine red line on nukes and his own personal safety.
    - stickfigure 2y ago
      Well then it's a good thing that Putin only makes unofficial attempts on Zelensky's life now. Via the FSB, which is definitely not an official department of the government. Nope. Just a public service organization! The Ukranians could certainly hit the Kremlin with drones. Unfortunately for them, Putin doesn't live in the Kremlin, and the drones that can reach Moscow are rather small. But I 100% guarantee you that Putin's "red lines" won't matter when he's dead.

ceejayoz 2y ago

> If we were at war? Sure. And if we weren't at war, we would be afterward. Throughout the Iraq and Afghan wars, we deemed combat actions by insurgent groups to be terrorism, even if entirely against military targets. Hell, the guy who threw his shoe at Bush got three years in jail. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_shoe-throwing_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_shoe-throwing_i... > Do you think Putin and Zelensky aren't doing everything they can to blow each other up? I don't, really. I think Ukraine avoids targeting Putin directly because it'd lead to serious retalliation (doubly so if unsuccessful); I think Putin avoids targeting Zelensky these days as it'd make him a martyr.

stickfigure 2y ago
> I don't, really. I think Ukraine avoids targeting Putin directly because it'd lead to serious retalliation (doubly so if unsuccessful); I think Putin avoids targeting Zelensky these days as it'd make him a martyr. You are naive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volo... Considering how famously paranoid Putin is, I doubt the Ukrainians get much opportunity. There's not a doubt in my mind they would take it if they could. What are the Russians going to do, invade?
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  You’ll note that the official ones were all at the start, where a decapitation strike early might have helped. Once he became a national hero for staying that option dried up. The Ukrainians could hit the Kremlin with current drones, having hit targets in Moscow already. That they don’t is a deliberate calculation. No one wants to discover Putin’s genuine red line on nukes and his own personal safety.
  - stickfigure 2y ago
    Well then it's a good thing that Putin only makes unofficial attempts on Zelensky's life now. Via the FSB, which is definitely not an official department of the government. Nope. Just a public service organization! The Ukranians could certainly hit the Kremlin with drones. Unfortunately for them, Putin doesn't live in the Kremlin, and the drones that can reach Moscow are rather small. But I 100% guarantee you that Putin's "red lines" won't matter when he's dead.