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By that definition, war is extremely productive

bluGill 2y ago
At least a few evil people attack once in a while thus proving some defense is needed so they they are not completely unproductive/useless. Much as I wish they were not needed.
- tehjoker 2y ago
  what evil ppl? what attack?
  - bluGill 2y ago
    Putin is attacking Ukraine right now. There have been various coups and attempted coups around the world. Nigeria and South Korea both come to mind.
    - tehjoker 2y ago
      This is not our concern? The US is safe.
    - whamlastxmas 2y ago
      As far as I can tell, the war hasn’t killed Putin, and instead killed tens of thousands of men in their 20s and lots of innocent families
nateglims 2y ago
It is though, more value is generated by the MIC than is put in and war has yet to ruin the productive capacity of the United States. The societal ills of this are why it’s popular to call America an evil empire
- wuliwong 2y ago
  Ah the broken window fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
  - nateglims 2y ago
    No actually, that's about the opportunity cost of war. There's a left-wing argument I frequently see that the US finds wars to increase profitability but I'm talking about the propping up of firms to keep the industrial capacity ready. It is not the most productive use of capital, but it is productive.
    - whamlastxmas 2y ago
      Ready for what? War with China or Russia? Do you really think multibillion dollar aircraft carriers are what would win that war?
      - nateglims 2y ago
        Ready for whatever the pentagon wants.
        whamlastxmas 2y ago
        I don’t want a trillion dollars a year to spent so that the pentagon can have whatever it wants
        nateglims 2y ago
        I don't either, and I don't want a war with either Russia or China nor do I want the slow escalation that is currently happening. But the political reality is that the US will not be decreasing defense spending any time soon. There's no voting this situation away.

At least a few evil people attack once in a while thus proving some defense is needed so they they are not completely unproductive/useless. Much as I wish they were not needed.

tehjoker 2y ago
what evil ppl? what attack?
- bluGill 2y ago
  Putin is attacking Ukraine right now. There have been various coups and attempted coups around the world. Nigeria and South Korea both come to mind.
  - tehjoker 2y ago
    This is not our concern? The US is safe.
  - whamlastxmas 2y ago
    As far as I can tell, the war hasn’t killed Putin, and instead killed tens of thousands of men in their 20s and lots of innocent families

nateglims 2y ago

It is though, more value is generated by the MIC than is put in and war has yet to ruin the productive capacity of the United States. The societal ills of this are why it’s popular to call America an evil empire

wuliwong 2y ago
Ah the broken window fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
- nateglims 2y ago
  No actually, that's about the opportunity cost of war. There's a left-wing argument I frequently see that the US finds wars to increase profitability but I'm talking about the propping up of firms to keep the industrial capacity ready. It is not the most productive use of capital, but it is productive.
  - whamlastxmas 2y ago
    Ready for what? War with China or Russia? Do you really think multibillion dollar aircraft carriers are what would win that war?
    - nateglims 2y ago
      Ready for whatever the pentagon wants.
      - whamlastxmas 2y ago
        I don’t want a trillion dollars a year to spent so that the pentagon can have whatever it wants
        nateglims 2y ago
        I don't either, and I don't want a war with either Russia or China nor do I want the slow escalation that is currently happening. But the political reality is that the US will not be decreasing defense spending any time soon. There's no voting this situation away.