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Don't like YouTube's ads, great don't use it. You aren't entitled to get it for free though.
by jshen 2y ago
Don't like YouTube's ads, great don't use it. You aren't entitled to get it for free though.
- observationist 2y ago[flagged]
- jshen 2y ago> If your internet server serves content, I'm entitled to connect to it. Nope
- beej71 2y agoAs far as I can tell, this case went nowhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Department_of_Elementary_and_Secondary_Education#St._Louis_Post-Dispatch_database_report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Department_of_Element... I'm curious if you know of any court cases that back up your position. I've connected to a lot of servers today and downloaded all the information they sent me.
- jshen 2y agoI think that's a different issue. I can serve content behind a paywall, that doesn't make you entitled to it.
- asadotzler 2y agoThe OP explicitly called out logins. Are you being intentionally misleading or just dense or what?
- jshen 2y agoThe issue is about preventing users from watching if they block ads. Talking about logins is being intentionally misleading.
- observationist 2y ago[flagged]
- jshen 2y agoYou can gate it behind watching ads.
- beej71 2y agoWhat if you serve it to me from behind the paywall without me paying? My client: "Hey, I didn't pay, but can I have that data?" Your server: "Sure! Here it is!"
- segasaturn 2y agoGoogle isn't entitled to invade my privacy, harvest my data and waste my time with ads. Installing an adblocker isn't an act of entitlement, it's an act of self-defense.
- recursive 2y agoAnd google is entitled to infer that you're using it and serve you different content, or none at all.
- int_19h 2y agoAnd I'm entitled to publicly shame software engineers who implement this kind of stuff for Google.
- recursive 2y agoBest of luck. I actually hope it works, but I'm not optimistic.
- int_19h 2y agoI'm pretty sure it won't, given that it hasn't worked so far for much worse stuff (like people implementing the panopticon at Palantir).
- ryandrake 2y agoIt's not possible to shame a group of people who can't even agree on baseline ethical issues around their profession. For every engineer who refuses to work on guided missiles or the Torment Nexus and would feel shame to do so, there's another engineer who would find it an interesting technical problem.
- int_19h 2y agoWhen such things work, it's not because people who do it feel ashamed, it's because the society ostracizes them so much that it becomes actually inconvenient to function in it. Oh, and it is an interesting problem. In the abstract.
- throwawaygmbno 2y agoOr we could just let you and other people like you subsidize it. I've used Pocket Cast for a little over a year and a half. Just manually skipping through ads when I have my phone handy and they come on, the app reports I've apparently saved 14 hours of wasted time. I've been blocking ads in Firefox for nearly 20 years and have been helping friends and family do it for nearly as long. I'm not going back because I should feel bad for some company with billions of dollars in profits that doesn't care about me or any of my privacy. I go the extra step further and use the banned from Chrome store extension, Ad Nauseum, to click on nearly every single blocked ad.
- jshen 2y agoI'm not saying you anyone should feel bad. If you have a principled objection to the status quo you should support companies with business models you prefer, and try to persuade others to do the same. Otherwise your just taking advantage of a loop hole, and shouldn't complain if/when the company tries to block it.