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I've found almost all my career positions through recruiters. I find it's about 100x more productive of an experience. You know the job exists because they're p

by extr 2y ago

I've found almost all my career positions through recruiters. I find it's about 100x more productive of an experience. You know the job exists because they're paying someone to fill it. You get to talk to someone on the phone about the job before you have to lift a finger. If you sound good on the phone, they just put you right through to the hiring manager/interview process, and also are materially invested in your success. Getting the formatting right on your resume is an afterthought. They'll give you an entire gameplan and tips on this company's specific process. People hate on LinkedIn but having a presentable profile and using the right keywords is worth it's weight in gold IMO. Even if it doesn't work out, they'll keep you in their rolodex and hit you up for jobs long into the future.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
Main issue is that recruiters can get every bit as bougy as applicants can get when the market sways in their favor. So in a market like this, you may have less than a 10% response rare from messaging recruiters. Whereas 2021-2022 you'd almost always at least get a reply when you messaged a human.
- extr 2y ago
  I never message recruiters cold. Only wait for them to message me, or hit up recruiters I have existing relationship with.
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    Yeah, tried that early on. Messaged 4 recruiters I thought I had food relations with. 2 didn't have any jobs. 2 were no longer working as a recruiter. Oh and one ghosted me for... Almost 2 years.
mywittyname 2y ago
Same here, but have you looked for a position in the past 2 years? It's dramatically worse than I've experienced in my 20 years as a dev. I only ever apply to jobs that I know I'm qualified for and know that I can demonstrate it, so my application -> offer ratio was historically pretty high. In my last job search, I sent out 99% of the applications I've ever sent out in my career. The tech job market enshitified rather quickly.
bluGill 2y ago
Even if there is a job they will send it out to multiple recruiters, only the one who finds a candidate gets paid. Still in many cases those recruiters are the only way to get the job. Just beware that recruiters don't know when a new job will open for them either.

by extr 2y ago

johnnyanmac 2y ago

Main issue is that recruiters can get every bit as bougy as applicants can get when the market sways in their favor. So in a market like this, you may have less than a 10% response rare from messaging recruiters. Whereas 2021-2022 you'd almost always at least get a reply when you messaged a human.

extr 2y ago
I never message recruiters cold. Only wait for them to message me, or hit up recruiters I have existing relationship with.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  Yeah, tried that early on. Messaged 4 recruiters I thought I had food relations with. 2 didn't have any jobs. 2 were no longer working as a recruiter. Oh and one ghosted me for... Almost 2 years.

mywittyname 2y ago

Same here, but have you looked for a position in the past 2 years? It's dramatically worse than I've experienced in my 20 years as a dev. I only ever apply to jobs that I know I'm qualified for and know that I can demonstrate it, so my application -> offer ratio was historically pretty high. In my last job search, I sent out 99% of the applications I've ever sent out in my career. The tech job market enshitified rather quickly.

bluGill 2y ago

Even if there is a job they will send it out to multiple recruiters, only the one who finds a candidate gets paid. Still in many cases those recruiters are the only way to get the job. Just beware that recruiters don't know when a new job will open for them either.