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This is crazy to me. I've subscribed to Proton to replace Google Suite. It lasted 3 days and I switched to FastMail. Their stuff is full of bugs, confusing UI,

by pluc 2y ago

This is crazy to me. I've subscribed to Proton to replace Google Suite. It lasted 3 days and I switched to FastMail. Their stuff is full of bugs, confusing UI, poor quality. I don't understand how you can give away any amount of money when that is the case. The only upside here is good publicity.. but what's gonna happen when people actually subscribe and see how the apps behave? Bonkers.

diggan 2y ago
> The only upside here is good publicity Well, the ten organizations working for a more open internet, who happened to be chosen by the Proton community, and who will together receive over $1 million in donations might disagree that publicity is the only upside here.
- pluc 2y ago
  The only upside for Proton
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ziddoap 2y ago
>Their stuff is full of bugs, confusing UI, poor quality. Can you expand on what bugs and quality issues you ran into? UI is pretty subjective (I find it fine), but in the 7+ years I've been using Proton Mail, I've never encountered a bug or thought the quality was poor. Was it in the other products (which I admittedly don't make much, if any, use of)? Or were they bugs in Mail?
teekert 2y ago
To add some balance, I use them for my business and my family (3 domains, 6 users) and find it works perfectly. Even my father is happy after switching because the UI is much more consistent across his devices than all the various mail clients he used before (Apple mail, iOS mail, provider's crap webmail)! Even so, I encourage everyone to first try the free tier to see if they like it (ie the lack of caldav/carddav and how much you're tied to their own apps for the encryption, yes I known about the bridge, yes I also want a Linux client, or better yet, an api or rsync endpoint). Even the free versions have 0 ads and don't use your data, perfect to see what you're getting into. What a nice company, I happily pay them for a better internet indeed.

by pluc 2y ago

diggan 2y ago

> The only upside here is good publicity Well, the ten organizations working for a more open internet, who happened to be chosen by the Proton community, and who will together receive over $1 million in donations might disagree that publicity is the only upside here.

pluc 2y ago
The only upside for Proton

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ziddoap 2y ago

>Their stuff is full of bugs, confusing UI, poor quality. Can you expand on what bugs and quality issues you ran into? UI is pretty subjective (I find it fine), but in the 7+ years I've been using Proton Mail, I've never encountered a bug or thought the quality was poor. Was it in the other products (which I admittedly don't make much, if any, use of)? Or were they bugs in Mail?

teekert 2y ago

To add some balance, I use them for my business and my family (3 domains, 6 users) and find it works perfectly. Even my father is happy after switching because the UI is much more consistent across his devices than all the various mail clients he used before (Apple mail, iOS mail, provider's crap webmail)! Even so, I encourage everyone to first try the free tier to see if they like it (ie the lack of caldav/carddav and how much you're tied to their own apps for the encryption, yes I known about the bridge, yes I also want a Linux client, or better yet, an api or rsync endpoint). Even the free versions have 0 ads and don't use your data, perfect to see what you're getting into. What a nice company, I happily pay them for a better internet indeed.