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Given that Musk is actively working to undermine UE (L'Union européenne, EU in English, sorry for confusion), you'd have to be some kind of idiot to support him
by ddalex 2y ago
Given that Musk is actively working to undermine UE (L'Union européenne, EU in English, sorry for confusion), you'd have to be some kind of idiot to support him by buying a Tesla if you live in Europe.
- calciphus 2y agoNot arguing, but what is UE in this context?
- airstrike 2y agoEU in other languages
- vimy 2y agoFrench for EU.
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- SideburnsOfDoom 2y agoIt is Union of Europe, more commonly "EU" in English.
- drysine 2y agoL'Union européenne
- optimalsolver 2y agoUropian Eunion
- throw_a_grenade 2y agoUnia Europejska in Polish?
- tirant 2y agoActually I think Musk is doing the opposite: Europe has since many years suffered with high bureaucracy, strict regulations and in general low innovation levels. Musk has been very vocal about those issues in Europe. He might be right or wrong, but questioning European levels of bureaucracy and regulations is not undermining EU, it’s going to help it.
- surgical_fire 2y agoNo it's not. Musk just finds regulations icky, because he prefers to chase profits without bothering with governments. EU is fine without rich assholes trying to undermine it.
- Melomomololo 2y agoHe actively engaged now in EU politics. Interview with the afd, using his huge platform for disrespecting politician's etc. He is a clear threat to democracy. The fun stopped at that point.
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- cwbriscoe 2y agoFree speech is a threat to democracy?
- gazchop 2y agoYes, when someone uses it to weaponise or manipulate the population via spreading lies and misinformation. I think the Greeks worked that one out a couple of thousand years ago or so... Free speech does not mean there is no accountability for what you say.
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- Gud 2y agoWhy? Many people dislike the European Union(myself included). Some of us believe it's an anti-democratic organization that should be dismantled. It hardly makes us idiots. Additionally, not every European country is a member of the EU. I would argue Europe would be a lot better without such centralized power in the hands of a few.
- sillyfluke 2y agoTo do this with a generation of peace who cannot comprehend how you can end up with a conflict in western europe in the next couple of decades does come with some level of risk. You have to have a detailed gameplan right out of the gate having gameplayed how economically and politically antagonistic your neighbors are going to be to your early moves. And if in the early days the perception is that things are getting worse than they were before (see Brexit) the risk of future unrest and conflict increases I would think.
- Gud 2y agoI agree. Fundamentally, I believe in a direct, decentralised democracy with Switzerland as a good example. I believe this system of governance gives prosperity and opportunity for as many as possible, while a centralised system like the EU(or USA) gives advantage to the already powerful and well connected, with the masses only an afterthought if beneficial to the ruling elite. I think this is obvious to any thinking, rational individual.
- tim333 2y agoMusk is a bit odd re the UK. He goes on about the Starmer and the grooming scandal but it's all a bit distorted like he's getting his info from American MAGA enthusiasts on X and doesn't seem to have spoken to many Brits. A recent poll has 71% of Brits having a negative opinion of him https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/71-of-britons-hold-negative-view-of-elon-musk-poll/3449326 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/71-of-britons-hold-negative-...
- misja111 2y agoI'm not a fan of Musk but you're getting his intentions wrong. He's not actively trying to undermine the EU. His recent support for AFD was actually meant, misguided or not, to support Germany. And his support for Tommy Robinson in the UK was because he apparently believes freedom of speech in the UK is in danger.