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Twice the P65 level is 1 ppm lead. That translates to 35 micrograms per serving. Lead is a naturally occuring element. Clean dirt contains 15 to 40 ppm lead.

Twice the P65 level is 1 ppm lead. That translates to 35 micrograms per serving. Lead is a naturally occuring element. Clean dirt contains 15 to 40 ppm lead. You grow plants in dirt. Guess what happens? They take up a little bit of lead. Ideally I would like to eat 0 micrograms of lead, sure, but I'm not worried about tiny unavoidable amounts of lead from my food.

riiii 2y ago
The PR guys have arrived.
- compass_copium 2y ago
  Nope, just an analytical chemist who's worked in 3rd party testing labs.
  - riiii 2y ago
    Oh well, enjoy your lead consumption anyways.
    - compass_copium 2y ago
      I will! It's nature's sweetener, I've always said :)
Etheryte 2y ago
There is no amount of lead that's considered safe for consumption. Anything that's not zero is bad for you, doesn't matter what dirt or whatever has in it.
- compass_copium 2y ago
  Yes. There's also no world where you don't take up miniscule amounts of toxic, naturally occuring chemicals.
  - Etheryte 2y ago
    Still I would rather consume less than more. If half the protein powders manage to not contain alarming levels of toxins I would much rather have those than the ones that do contain toxins. Not really a difficult concept.
    - compass_copium 2y ago
      It's only "alarming" because it's presented in an alarmimg way. If the headline had said "Protein powders found to contain 2.5% as much lead as undisturbed dirt" you would not have found it alarming.
      - Etheryte 2y ago
        This whole argument is silly. People generally don't go around eating dirt off the ground so how much lead is in dirt doesn't matter. It's alarming because lead is incredibly unhealthy for you.
        compass_copium 2y ago
        The point is not that you are eating dirt. The point is that you are constantly surrounded by small amounts of things that are not good for you. Take a plane? Eat a banana? You are exposed to radiation. Drink water in certain parts of the country? You are exposed to small amounts of uranium. Is any of that good? No, but it's unavoidable to be exposed to small amounts of naturally occuring toxins and it's not worth worrying about.
- solarmist 2y ago
  We can't compare against the ideal though we can only compare against the world we have. So the comparison against dirt is pretty apt.
MattGaiser 2y ago
> You grow plants in dirt. Guess what happens? They take up a little bit of lead. https://www.washington.edu/news/2016/02/02/risk-of-lead-poisoning-from-urban-gardening-is-low-new-study-finds/ https://www.washington.edu/news/2016/02/02/risk-of-lead-pois... This study disputes this except for root vegetables.
- compass_copium 2y ago
  No, it does not. >plants actually take up very little lead in their stems and leaves, and are safe to eat They might have, for instance, lead on the level of 1 ppm, which poses no significant harm to your health.

riiii 2y ago

The PR guys have arrived.

compass_copium 2y ago
Nope, just an analytical chemist who's worked in 3rd party testing labs.
- riiii 2y ago
  Oh well, enjoy your lead consumption anyways.
  - compass_copium 2y ago
    I will! It's nature's sweetener, I've always said :)

Etheryte 2y ago

There is no amount of lead that's considered safe for consumption. Anything that's not zero is bad for you, doesn't matter what dirt or whatever has in it.

compass_copium 2y ago
Yes. There's also no world where you don't take up miniscule amounts of toxic, naturally occuring chemicals.
- Etheryte 2y ago
  Still I would rather consume less than more. If half the protein powders manage to not contain alarming levels of toxins I would much rather have those than the ones that do contain toxins. Not really a difficult concept.
  - compass_copium 2y ago
    It's only "alarming" because it's presented in an alarmimg way. If the headline had said "Protein powders found to contain 2.5% as much lead as undisturbed dirt" you would not have found it alarming.
    - Etheryte 2y ago
      This whole argument is silly. People generally don't go around eating dirt off the ground so how much lead is in dirt doesn't matter. It's alarming because lead is incredibly unhealthy for you.
      - compass_copium 2y ago
        The point is not that you are eating dirt. The point is that you are constantly surrounded by small amounts of things that are not good for you. Take a plane? Eat a banana? You are exposed to radiation. Drink water in certain parts of the country? You are exposed to small amounts of uranium. Is any of that good? No, but it's unavoidable to be exposed to small amounts of naturally occuring toxins and it's not worth worrying about.
solarmist 2y ago
We can't compare against the ideal though we can only compare against the world we have. So the comparison against dirt is pretty apt.

MattGaiser 2y ago

> You grow plants in dirt. Guess what happens? They take up a little bit of lead. https://www.washington.edu/news/2016/02/02/risk-of-lead-poisoning-from-urban-gardening-is-low-new-study-finds/ https://www.washington.edu/news/2016/02/02/risk-of-lead-pois... This study disputes this except for root vegetables.

compass_copium 2y ago
No, it does not. >plants actually take up very little lead in their stems and leaves, and are safe to eat They might have, for instance, lead on the level of 1 ppm, which poses no significant harm to your health.