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Very strange that, throughout the report, it is noted that there are "no comprehensive federal regulations specifically targeting dietary exposure to heavy meta

Very strange that, throughout the report, it is noted that there are "no comprehensive federal regulations specifically targeting dietary exposure to heavy metals" and yet in all their results they present violations as exceeding "federal or state" regulations. What federal regulations are they evaluating if there are none? Looks like Prop65 lead limits are 20x lower than conventional USP limits, so even exceeding 2x Prop65 puts you 10x below USP limits [1] for daily exposure. A serving of protein powder is ~10% or more of daily caloric needs so this seems perfectly reasonable. [1] https://goop.com/what-is-prop-65/ https://goop.com/what-is-prop-65/

ziddoap 2y ago
>What federal regulations are they evaluating if there are none? "Federal _or state_". They are evaluating against state regulations.
- ericpauley 2y ago
  Exactly. The inclusion of federal in this statement is vacuous and therefore misleading. You may as well put "federal, state, or galactic".
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Well, the galactic regulations have been publicly available for some time now. We can't help that you didn't find them in the cellar in a cabinet drawer found in the lavatory behind the sign that reads "beware of the leopard"
crazydoggers 2y ago
I think the key word is “comprehensive”. There are definitely federal regulations of heavy metals in food products. See: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-172 https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-B... https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-united-states/ https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-unite...
vixen99 2y ago
For those interested, the EU recommendations for food products in general were updated Dec/24 and 1/1/25: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/915/oj https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/915/oj For articles (hardware): https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-european-union/ https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-europ...
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monitron 2y ago
Please reconsider citing Gwyneth Paltrow's scammy goop.com.
abeppu 2y ago
I'm also confused that it seems that CA OEHHA which sets these limits has separate "No Significant Risk Level" and "Maximum Allowable Dose Level" values for lead, and the NSRLs are 15-58 micrograms/day depending on compound, and the MADL is 0.5 micrograms/day. Why for lead is the maximum allowable dose much smaller than the no significant risk level? For other cases (e.g. benzene) where there are values for both levels, the MADL is higher than the NSRL. https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/general-info/proposition-65-no-significant-risk-levels-nsrls-and-maximum-allowable-dose-levels-madls https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/general-info/proposition...

ziddoap 2y ago

>What federal regulations are they evaluating if there are none? "Federal _or state_". They are evaluating against state regulations.

ericpauley 2y ago
Exactly. The inclusion of federal in this statement is vacuous and therefore misleading. You may as well put "federal, state, or galactic".
- dylan604 2y ago
  Well, the galactic regulations have been publicly available for some time now. We can't help that you didn't find them in the cellar in a cabinet drawer found in the lavatory behind the sign that reads "beware of the leopard"

crazydoggers 2y ago

I think the key word is “comprehensive”. There are definitely federal regulations of heavy metals in food products. See: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-172 https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-B... https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-united-states/ https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-unite...

vixen99 2y ago

For those interested, the EU recommendations for food products in general were updated Dec/24 and 1/1/25: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/915/oj https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/915/oj For articles (hardware): https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-european-union/ https://www.compliancegate.com/heavy-metal-regulations-europ...

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monitron 2y ago

Please reconsider citing Gwyneth Paltrow's scammy goop.com.

abeppu 2y ago

I'm also confused that it seems that CA OEHHA which sets these limits has separate "No Significant Risk Level" and "Maximum Allowable Dose Level" values for lead, and the NSRLs are 15-58 micrograms/day depending on compound, and the MADL is 0.5 micrograms/day. Why for lead is the maximum allowable dose much smaller than the no significant risk level? For other cases (e.g. benzene) where there are values for both levels, the MADL is higher than the NSRL. https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/general-info/proposition-65-no-significant-risk-levels-nsrls-and-maximum-allowable-dose-levels-madls https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/general-info/proposition...