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I've never met an Israeli who wasn't a dual citizen. It's a choice to stay in Israel and fight in the IDF. In fact, the Snyk founder lives in London now: https:

by bbqfog 2y ago

I've never met an Israeli who wasn't a dual citizen. It's a choice to stay in Israel and fight in the IDF. In fact, the Snyk founder lives in London now: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/guypo https://uk.linkedin.com/in/guypo

lolinder 2y ago
> I've never met an Israeli who wasn't a dual citizen. Given that unless you are in Israel you're most likely to be meeting Israeli expats or at the very least people who travel, that's hardly surprising and not great evidence for anything. > In fact, the Snyk founder lives in London now So you're acknowledging that you're going to hold their country of origin against them even after they've moved. Got it.
- bbqfog 2y ago
  I don’t understand your complaint. People are free to vocally denounce Zionism. These founders have not done that. Quite the opposite, Snyk has offices in Israel and has been vocal about their ties to the IDF. It’s absolutely within my agency to not use their products. Again, there’s zero downside to do that.
  - lolinder 2y ago
    Correct, you're welcome to do that, and I'm welcome to denounce you for advocating boycotting a product because of the country of origin of its founders. People can't help where they're born, and you're wrong to hold that against them. You're welcome to work through that cognitive dissonance however you like, but in the meantime I will continue to advocate for treating individuals as individuals.
    - bbqfog 2y ago
      No one is entitled to my business. I have no cognitive dissonance, my business interests are aligned with my moral interests in this case. I don’t use Israeli tech whenever possible. You “denouncing” people who make a rational calculation isn’t really helping to market the firms you are supporting.
      - lolinder 2y ago
        I'm not supporting firms, I'm supporting the right of individuals to be seen as individuals rather than as members of a group assigned to them at birth. That said, this obviously isn't going anywhere, so have a nice day.
        guappa 2y ago
        "being born in israel" and "Join the army and take part in genocide" aren't the same thing, despite your tryhard attempts to make them into the same thing.

by bbqfog 2y ago

lolinder 2y ago

> I've never met an Israeli who wasn't a dual citizen. Given that unless you are in Israel you're most likely to be meeting Israeli expats or at the very least people who travel, that's hardly surprising and not great evidence for anything. > In fact, the Snyk founder lives in London now So you're acknowledging that you're going to hold their country of origin against them even after they've moved. Got it.

bbqfog 2y ago
I don’t understand your complaint. People are free to vocally denounce Zionism. These founders have not done that. Quite the opposite, Snyk has offices in Israel and has been vocal about their ties to the IDF. It’s absolutely within my agency to not use their products. Again, there’s zero downside to do that.
- lolinder 2y ago
  Correct, you're welcome to do that, and I'm welcome to denounce you for advocating boycotting a product because of the country of origin of its founders. People can't help where they're born, and you're wrong to hold that against them. You're welcome to work through that cognitive dissonance however you like, but in the meantime I will continue to advocate for treating individuals as individuals.
  - bbqfog 2y ago
    No one is entitled to my business. I have no cognitive dissonance, my business interests are aligned with my moral interests in this case. I don’t use Israeli tech whenever possible. You “denouncing” people who make a rational calculation isn’t really helping to market the firms you are supporting.
    - lolinder 2y ago
      I'm not supporting firms, I'm supporting the right of individuals to be seen as individuals rather than as members of a group assigned to them at birth. That said, this obviously isn't going anywhere, so have a nice day.
      - guappa 2y ago
        "being born in israel" and "Join the army and take part in genocide" aren't the same thing, despite your tryhard attempts to make them into the same thing.