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I ended up switching back from Firefox to Chrome after a few weeks because I found that if I had more than about 6 YouTube tabs opened, the YouTube interface w

I ended up switching back from Firefox to Chrome after a few weeks because I found that if I had more than about 6 YouTube tabs opened, the YouTube interface would become very laggy. I blamed it on Firefox at the time but maybe it was something intentional by Google.

wussboy 2y ago
How…how many videos are you watching at one time?
- scott_w 2y ago
  Not OP but I read it as "6 tabs" not "6 YouTube tabs."
  - lxgr 2y ago
    I sometimes do have several Youtube tabs open to line up things I want to watch next.
    - ethbr1 2y ago
      To this, have you tried running a no-autoplay style extension? (Not exactly this scenario, but lists might be modifiable) I expect YT is probably doing some preloading or heavyweight running in a loaded-but-not-playing tab. Convert that to load-on-click, and you'll likely fix your issue.
      - lxgr 2y ago
        No need – Firefox does that out of the box for tabs opened in the background (I open tabs via middle/command click)! So there is no problem for me.
      - wruza 2y ago
        We’re shifting targets here. The fact is, it doesn’t happen in Chrome for “magical” reasons, according to a comment few levels up. And regular non-tech users won’t debug this with click to play or whatever. We expect that YT does it absolutely intentionally. It bends userbases however it wants due to its multi-dimensional reach, and we’re like “hmm maybe extension would help prevent accidental preloading issue”. I just don’t get it.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  On the internet, no one knows you have compound eyes.
- wruza 2y ago
  I go through my feed or history and bg-open the links I want to watch. Then I watch them. What a strange confusion, as if all people must have the same "workflow". Sorry, no intent to sound negative, but why not give it some thought at least. It's "6 tabs", not "6 videos playing at the same time".
  - WorldMaker 2y ago
    As someone who hates the auto-recommendation system on YouTube and turns it off, I also appreciate this is sometimes the safest/easiest way to watch only the videos I actually intend to watch. This seems intentionally YouTube's UX design fault, they too heavily try to push you to "auto-play". YouTube has a "Watchlist" feature where you can build a playlist. When it works it is exactly what I want, but it feels like every so many months it mysteriously breaks for a while or they hide the button for it behind some new hidden gesture or menu they expect you psychic out of their UI. (If you've never heard of "Watchlist", no wonder. It seems intentionally hard to discover.) Lately I've been complaining that YouTube adds random "auto-play" videos even to a manually curated "Watchlist" if you don't pay enough attention or watch past the end of the list (even with auto-play and recommendations entirely off).
    - wruza 2y ago
      I guess it’s not the same as Watch Later. I think I remember “add to queue” button right on videos, that was it probably. I’m still using Watch Later, but for long videos I have no time for.
      - WorldMaker 2y ago
        Yeah, it was named "Queue" for a while at one point. I think "Watchlist" is the most consistent name it has had, and yeah that does add (intentional?) confusion with Watch Later.
flexd 2y ago
My Firefox does this on Windows. I have no idea how many tabs I have open, but regularly the whole YouTube tab I have open freezes, especially if you try to watch one video, and then another, and the whole UI is delayed by many seconds. Even closing the tab will have the audio playing for several seconds in the background. It's not due to load or hardware as far as I can tell. The videos play just fine in Chrome or Edge. I still use Firefox as my daily browser (previously Chrome), but these issues are super annoying. I don't want to have to restart my browser or PC all the time. I don't know if it's some combination of extension/ad-blocking or YouTube doing stuff, but it's very annoying. Unrelated to that, but on a Ubuntu laptop I have Firefox tabs regularly stop working entirely. They just won't load anything, and the only fix is to open a new tab and that loads fine most of the time. Other times I have to restart Firefox. I've tried searching for others experiencing this problem and even asked in Mozilla channels on Matrix, but even then I didn't come up with any answers. The laptop's hinge broke last year so I haven't used it since then, so likely never going to figure out what was going on.
deedub 2y ago
Maybe more related to youtube than I thought, but I have trouble closing tabs and firefox with 15 or 20 tabs would eat all my CPU. Pages loaded much slower and the experience across the board was often pretty poor. I had to go back to Chrome and I don't miss FF at all. I tried.
- brokenmachine 2y ago
  That is not my experience. I use FF exclusively, I can't remember the last time I used Chrome. I have over 1200 tabs open at the moment, including at least 100 youtube tabs, and mine runs fine even with a bunch of other stuff running. I do find that if I go over 150 windows open then things start to become problematic, but I think that's because my GPU is only 8Gb. CPU is usually at about 10% on an i7-12900k.
spartanatreyu 2y ago
This was fixed in the latest update: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/134.0.1/releasenotes/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/134.0.1/releasenotes/ Update your firefox now and the issue is gone. It was basically the whole reason for the update. Google changed their code to create a bunch of objects over time, and those objects didn't get cleaned up. It was just a standard memory leak issue. Except it heavily impacted users who kept a youtube tab open or pinned. The bug was reported and a fix released in a little under 2 weeks.

wussboy 2y ago

How…how many videos are you watching at one time?

scott_w 2y ago
Not OP but I read it as "6 tabs" not "6 YouTube tabs."
- lxgr 2y ago
  I sometimes do have several Youtube tabs open to line up things I want to watch next.
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    To this, have you tried running a no-autoplay style extension? (Not exactly this scenario, but lists might be modifiable) I expect YT is probably doing some preloading or heavyweight running in a loaded-but-not-playing tab. Convert that to load-on-click, and you'll likely fix your issue.
    - lxgr 2y ago
      No need – Firefox does that out of the box for tabs opened in the background (I open tabs via middle/command click)! So there is no problem for me.
    - wruza 2y ago
      We’re shifting targets here. The fact is, it doesn’t happen in Chrome for “magical” reasons, according to a comment few levels up. And regular non-tech users won’t debug this with click to play or whatever. We expect that YT does it absolutely intentionally. It bends userbases however it wants due to its multi-dimensional reach, and we’re like “hmm maybe extension would help prevent accidental preloading issue”. I just don’t get it.
ethbr1 2y ago
On the internet, no one knows you have compound eyes.
wruza 2y ago
I go through my feed or history and bg-open the links I want to watch. Then I watch them. What a strange confusion, as if all people must have the same "workflow". Sorry, no intent to sound negative, but why not give it some thought at least. It's "6 tabs", not "6 videos playing at the same time".
- WorldMaker 2y ago
  As someone who hates the auto-recommendation system on YouTube and turns it off, I also appreciate this is sometimes the safest/easiest way to watch only the videos I actually intend to watch. This seems intentionally YouTube's UX design fault, they too heavily try to push you to "auto-play". YouTube has a "Watchlist" feature where you can build a playlist. When it works it is exactly what I want, but it feels like every so many months it mysteriously breaks for a while or they hide the button for it behind some new hidden gesture or menu they expect you psychic out of their UI. (If you've never heard of "Watchlist", no wonder. It seems intentionally hard to discover.) Lately I've been complaining that YouTube adds random "auto-play" videos even to a manually curated "Watchlist" if you don't pay enough attention or watch past the end of the list (even with auto-play and recommendations entirely off).
  - wruza 2y ago
    I guess it’s not the same as Watch Later. I think I remember “add to queue” button right on videos, that was it probably. I’m still using Watch Later, but for long videos I have no time for.
    - WorldMaker 2y ago
      Yeah, it was named "Queue" for a while at one point. I think "Watchlist" is the most consistent name it has had, and yeah that does add (intentional?) confusion with Watch Later.

flexd 2y ago

My Firefox does this on Windows. I have no idea how many tabs I have open, but regularly the whole YouTube tab I have open freezes, especially if you try to watch one video, and then another, and the whole UI is delayed by many seconds. Even closing the tab will have the audio playing for several seconds in the background. It's not due to load or hardware as far as I can tell. The videos play just fine in Chrome or Edge. I still use Firefox as my daily browser (previously Chrome), but these issues are super annoying. I don't want to have to restart my browser or PC all the time. I don't know if it's some combination of extension/ad-blocking or YouTube doing stuff, but it's very annoying. Unrelated to that, but on a Ubuntu laptop I have Firefox tabs regularly stop working entirely. They just won't load anything, and the only fix is to open a new tab and that loads fine most of the time. Other times I have to restart Firefox. I've tried searching for others experiencing this problem and even asked in Mozilla channels on Matrix, but even then I didn't come up with any answers. The laptop's hinge broke last year so I haven't used it since then, so likely never going to figure out what was going on.

deedub 2y ago

Maybe more related to youtube than I thought, but I have trouble closing tabs and firefox with 15 or 20 tabs would eat all my CPU. Pages loaded much slower and the experience across the board was often pretty poor. I had to go back to Chrome and I don't miss FF at all. I tried.

brokenmachine 2y ago
That is not my experience. I use FF exclusively, I can't remember the last time I used Chrome. I have over 1200 tabs open at the moment, including at least 100 youtube tabs, and mine runs fine even with a bunch of other stuff running. I do find that if I go over 150 windows open then things start to become problematic, but I think that's because my GPU is only 8Gb. CPU is usually at about 10% on an i7-12900k.

spartanatreyu 2y ago

This was fixed in the latest update: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/134.0.1/releasenotes/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/134.0.1/releasenotes/ Update your firefox now and the issue is gone. It was basically the whole reason for the update. Google changed their code to create a bunch of objects over time, and those objects didn't get cleaned up. It was just a standard memory leak issue. Except it heavily impacted users who kept a youtube tab open or pinned. The bug was reported and a fix released in a little under 2 weeks.