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Thinking longer term, what will happen to gas stations? I assume they will still be needed but the economic incentives will mean less and less use? Europe being

Thinking longer term, what will happen to gas stations? I assume they will still be needed but the economic incentives will mean less and less use? Europe being a large landmass what about if someone drives their gas car from one country to another- is there a risk of being stranded?

audunw 2y ago
> Thinking longer term, what will happen to gas stations? We're already seeing gas stations in Norway that has replaced most of their pumps with fast chargers. Some of them just have one or two gas pumps left. This is happening really fast since the people who drive the most are among the first to switch to EVs. I think sale of gasoline is falling by around 30% every year. Nobody is letting a brand new EV gather dust in the garage as a secondary car. They're all out on the road. Yeah, at some point you will have to plan a trip with an ICE car to make sure you find gas stations along the way. In the really long term there won't be any gas pumps at all. Some specialty stores will probably sell gasoline and diesel in a jerry can, for enthusiasts that maintain and drive old cars for fun. This is why I think the transition will happen much faster than people anticipate, once the market has reached a certain critical mass. Imagine what people will think when they read about gas pumps disappearing in Norway or the Netherlands and other regions with high EV adoption. The thought of not easily being able to get gasoline for your new ICE car in a decade or two will probably push people to be almost irrational in their avoidance of buying a new ICE car. Cutting the sale price won't help much. The sale of new ICE vehicles will fall like a rock. The sale of EVs will not rise as fast as the fall of ICE. People will try to hold on to their old ICE cars for longer rather than buying a new car. Which isn't a bad thing.
- illwrks 2y ago
  Good insight, thank you. Your right… there will be be a point where it will flip and then you’ll need a route planning app for gas stations. I plan on holding onto Our gas car for another 6 to 10 years if I can stretch it and at that point of infrastructure is up to it I’ll get an electric one.
ceejayoz 2y ago
People still need a place to charge, pee, get a snack, stretch legs. My limiting factor on long drives is mostly the need for a stop, and while I can't speak for Europe, here in the US gas stations largely don't make profits on the gas sales.

audunw 2y ago

> Thinking longer term, what will happen to gas stations? We're already seeing gas stations in Norway that has replaced most of their pumps with fast chargers. Some of them just have one or two gas pumps left. This is happening really fast since the people who drive the most are among the first to switch to EVs. I think sale of gasoline is falling by around 30% every year. Nobody is letting a brand new EV gather dust in the garage as a secondary car. They're all out on the road. Yeah, at some point you will have to plan a trip with an ICE car to make sure you find gas stations along the way. In the really long term there won't be any gas pumps at all. Some specialty stores will probably sell gasoline and diesel in a jerry can, for enthusiasts that maintain and drive old cars for fun. This is why I think the transition will happen much faster than people anticipate, once the market has reached a certain critical mass. Imagine what people will think when they read about gas pumps disappearing in Norway or the Netherlands and other regions with high EV adoption. The thought of not easily being able to get gasoline for your new ICE car in a decade or two will probably push people to be almost irrational in their avoidance of buying a new ICE car. Cutting the sale price won't help much. The sale of new ICE vehicles will fall like a rock. The sale of EVs will not rise as fast as the fall of ICE. People will try to hold on to their old ICE cars for longer rather than buying a new car. Which isn't a bad thing.

illwrks 2y ago
Good insight, thank you. Your right… there will be be a point where it will flip and then you’ll need a route planning app for gas stations. I plan on holding onto Our gas car for another 6 to 10 years if I can stretch it and at that point of infrastructure is up to it I’ll get an electric one.

ceejayoz 2y ago

People still need a place to charge, pee, get a snack, stretch legs. My limiting factor on long drives is mostly the need for a stop, and while I can't speak for Europe, here in the US gas stations largely don't make profits on the gas sales.