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Your dislike of "gangs of homeless people" existing shouldn't be directed at the homeless people, but the gangs. In an area where black communities have high cr

by rbits 2y ago

Your dislike of "gangs of homeless people" existing shouldn't be directed at the homeless people, but the gangs. In an area where black communities have high crime rates, the answer wouldn't be to go after black people, but address the crime directly. I don't see why this should any different.

pdimitar 2y ago
I heard police officers say that lot of homeless people are doing some sort of crime. It's not an oppression to read statistics. It's a good first step in trying to fix stuff.
- chaps 2y ago
  God help us; the vagrants are doing some sorts of crime. And reading statistics on this stuff? Hah! The police don't even report crime statistics: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rate...
  - pdimitar 2y ago
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I was a guest in communities where people said they had problems with homeless people on a regular basis. You are free to not believe it. I for the moment believe my eyes and ears.
    - chaps 2y ago
      Of course that shit happens on a constant basis and it's silly of you to think that my position isn't that shit happens. Think about it like this: if you had no food, were starving, and the only way to eat for the night is to steal something, wouldn't you do it to? Or are you going to allow yourself to literally die because you're afraid to commit a crime? Nah. You will want to live. I was once held up at gunpoint by three folk who stole my wallet, keys, phone, etc. Over the next 48 hours or so I watched the phone bill logs to see where they were calling. Hospital and HIV clinic were on the list. I asked the main dude why he was robbing me and he responded, "Man, we're just trying to live." Grow some empathy for your fellow man.
      - pdimitar 2y ago
        No, I will not. I was in desperate situations as well, managed to crawl out without robbing anyone. Again, believe what makes you feel good. I am looking out for myself because I was only backstabbed all my life and I am not far from a desperate situation again... in my 40s and with a supposedly prestigious profession (programmer) but almost nobody is hiring. My empathy only resulted in my money and literal health going toward people who don't appreciate it. Nobody ever worked for my cause. Ever. Not once. You are a classic victim of a filter bubble. "Worked out for me, must work out for everyone". No, in fact it does not work for most.
        chaps 2y ago
        I hope you never experience homelessness or addiction, but if you do, I hope it humbles you.
        pdimitar 2y ago
        You can stop replying now, in case you haven't noticed. Especially after using roundabout ways of insulting. Not interested.
        chaps 2y ago
        Wasn't meant as an insult, but I'll admit it wasn't kind. It came from a genuine interest in seeing you grow as a person, despite what you might think. To say I've been down on my dumps a few times in the past is an understatement, so I understand. The way I read your post is that you, yourself, are effectively insulting people close to me, including friends and family. It's hard for me not to perceive it as naive dehumanism. If I may -- please try spending some time at a homeless shelter or soup kitchen, or just volunteer your time to help others. Try to have conversations with people who are affected by homelessness and addiction to understand their struggles. People warm up to genuine curiosity and I think you'll find that there's so much more love out there than you give humanity credit for. Cheers.
        2y ago

by rbits 2y ago

pdimitar 2y ago

I heard police officers say that lot of homeless people are doing some sort of crime. It's not an oppression to read statistics. It's a good first step in trying to fix stuff.

chaps 2y ago
God help us; the vagrants are doing some sorts of crime. And reading statistics on this stuff? Hah! The police don't even report crime statistics: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rate...
- pdimitar 2y ago
  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I was a guest in communities where people said they had problems with homeless people on a regular basis. You are free to not believe it. I for the moment believe my eyes and ears.
  - chaps 2y ago
    Of course that shit happens on a constant basis and it's silly of you to think that my position isn't that shit happens. Think about it like this: if you had no food, were starving, and the only way to eat for the night is to steal something, wouldn't you do it to? Or are you going to allow yourself to literally die because you're afraid to commit a crime? Nah. You will want to live. I was once held up at gunpoint by three folk who stole my wallet, keys, phone, etc. Over the next 48 hours or so I watched the phone bill logs to see where they were calling. Hospital and HIV clinic were on the list. I asked the main dude why he was robbing me and he responded, "Man, we're just trying to live." Grow some empathy for your fellow man.
    - pdimitar 2y ago
      No, I will not. I was in desperate situations as well, managed to crawl out without robbing anyone. Again, believe what makes you feel good. I am looking out for myself because I was only backstabbed all my life and I am not far from a desperate situation again... in my 40s and with a supposedly prestigious profession (programmer) but almost nobody is hiring. My empathy only resulted in my money and literal health going toward people who don't appreciate it. Nobody ever worked for my cause. Ever. Not once. You are a classic victim of a filter bubble. "Worked out for me, must work out for everyone". No, in fact it does not work for most.
      - chaps 2y ago
        I hope you never experience homelessness or addiction, but if you do, I hope it humbles you.
        pdimitar 2y ago
        You can stop replying now, in case you haven't noticed. Especially after using roundabout ways of insulting. Not interested.
        chaps 2y ago
        Wasn't meant as an insult, but I'll admit it wasn't kind. It came from a genuine interest in seeing you grow as a person, despite what you might think. To say I've been down on my dumps a few times in the past is an understatement, so I understand. The way I read your post is that you, yourself, are effectively insulting people close to me, including friends and family. It's hard for me not to perceive it as naive dehumanism. If I may -- please try spending some time at a homeless shelter or soup kitchen, or just volunteer your time to help others. Try to have conversations with people who are affected by homelessness and addiction to understand their struggles. People warm up to genuine curiosity and I think you'll find that there's so much more love out there than you give humanity credit for. Cheers.
        2y ago