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In any city that isn't hopelessly car-dependent there is some kind of rail to bring in commuters. A subway, tram, light rail, passenger rail, often a combinatio

In any city that isn't hopelessly car-dependent there is some kind of rail to bring in commuters. A subway, tram, light rail, passenger rail, often a combination of all of them. Once you have a stable system to bring in commuters, adding a couple parking lots to stops on the outskirts for "out of towners" is pretty easy. The rest is just about not removing all the streets. You also need enough roads for emergency vehicles. But simple two-lane roads for arteries and one-lane roads everywhere else are enough for deliveries, maintenance and (European-sized) emergency vehicles. All the other lanes are just there so everyone can travel downtown in their personal car instead of using more efficient transport options.

pfg_ 2y ago
You can also have fully closed streets open to emergency vehicles as long as a path is kept clear
bufferoverflow 2y ago
One-lane road in a city means any car can block the whole road. So if an ambulance needs this road to save you, you're out of luck.
- wongarsu 2y ago
  Prohibit on-street parking on at least one side of the road, make the side walk on that side big enough that an ambulance can use it to pass other vehicles if the road is blocked (I'll skip the question of why the street is blocked in the first place). Actually enforce the parking restriction. You need space for pedestrians anyways, and with traffic restricted to the necessary minimum you don't need bollards everywhere This isn't some kind of rocket science that has never been tried before, it's the reality in many cities around the world. You need an entire concept instead of adding half-backed solutions to an existing system, but the solutions are all well-tried and for the most part very straight forward.
- CuriousCosmic 2y ago
  Just because a street is one way does not mean it is so narrow that only one vehicle can fit through. Streets may be one way because it discourages unnecessary automotive traffic and it allows the rest of the space to be dedicated to bicyclist or use for residential and commercial purposes (outdoor seating, space for games, etc). So even if the streets are one way, there will often be space for the ambulance to maneuver around blocked vehicles. And if there's not, the ambulance can take another street or road. If it's the only route that can access that location, then with any sane amount of urban planning then the ambulance will be within a short walking distance to the location (and more often than not within eyesight).
vlovich123 2y ago
Are you sure that’s not a path dependency that’s difficult to undo? Retrofitting this into a place like the Bay Area seems impractical given how bad public transit is there chronically.
- Over2Chars 2y ago
  The public transit quality reflects the government quality.

pfg_ 2y ago

You can also have fully closed streets open to emergency vehicles as long as a path is kept clear

bufferoverflow 2y ago

One-lane road in a city means any car can block the whole road. So if an ambulance needs this road to save you, you're out of luck.

wongarsu 2y ago
Prohibit on-street parking on at least one side of the road, make the side walk on that side big enough that an ambulance can use it to pass other vehicles if the road is blocked (I'll skip the question of why the street is blocked in the first place). Actually enforce the parking restriction. You need space for pedestrians anyways, and with traffic restricted to the necessary minimum you don't need bollards everywhere This isn't some kind of rocket science that has never been tried before, it's the reality in many cities around the world. You need an entire concept instead of adding half-backed solutions to an existing system, but the solutions are all well-tried and for the most part very straight forward.
CuriousCosmic 2y ago
Just because a street is one way does not mean it is so narrow that only one vehicle can fit through. Streets may be one way because it discourages unnecessary automotive traffic and it allows the rest of the space to be dedicated to bicyclist or use for residential and commercial purposes (outdoor seating, space for games, etc). So even if the streets are one way, there will often be space for the ambulance to maneuver around blocked vehicles. And if there's not, the ambulance can take another street or road. If it's the only route that can access that location, then with any sane amount of urban planning then the ambulance will be within a short walking distance to the location (and more often than not within eyesight).

vlovich123 2y ago

Are you sure that’s not a path dependency that’s difficult to undo? Retrofitting this into a place like the Bay Area seems impractical given how bad public transit is there chronically.

Over2Chars 2y ago
The public transit quality reflects the government quality.