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Not sure if NYC would do the same stunt, but London saw an amazing improvement in traffic flow after congestion charge was introduced. Turned out for several m

Not sure if NYC would do the same stunt, but London saw an amazing improvement in traffic flow after congestion charge was introduced. Turned out for several months prior to it they'd been slowly shifting the timing of lights to make things less optimal, and then reverted the day congestion charge went live.

occz 2y ago
What a weird thing to lie about.
teractiveodular 2y ago
Would you have a source for this?
- jeffbee 2y ago
  Various buttholes, presumably. Anyone who has ever tried to adjust the phase of a traffic signal can tell you that sneaking little changes, all over a large city, is fantasy.
  - jonathan_landy 2y ago
    You’ve done this sort of work? There are a few in Berkeley I would like to try my hand at…
- Twirrim 2y ago
  This was over 20 years ago, not sure what I'll be able to find. This one is a bit frothing at the teeth, but I do recall a few others from after the congestion charge was introduced. It ended up being a minor controversy, and I could have sworn I read confirmation from later on, after the Ken Livingstone was no longer Mayor. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revealed-how-livingstone-has-brought-congestion-to-capital-179564.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revealed-how... And then from not long after it was introduced, you can see the AA blathering about it again: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2967852.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2967852.stm side note because I'm getting down votes: I'm one of those strongly in favour of congestion charges. I believe they made an improvement in London and not just because of these stunts. Of particular value was shifting a bunch of large vehicles to off-peak.
addicted 2y ago
This wouldn’t work in NYC even if they did try because the congestion pricing start date has been moved around a lot, including days before it was supposed to start the last time. But even more relevant is the fact that people have seen Manhattan gridlock for decades. If they were planning a move like that they would have had to start it in the 1980s at least.

occz 2y ago

What a weird thing to lie about.

teractiveodular 2y ago

Would you have a source for this?

jeffbee 2y ago
Various buttholes, presumably. Anyone who has ever tried to adjust the phase of a traffic signal can tell you that sneaking little changes, all over a large city, is fantasy.
- jonathan_landy 2y ago
  You’ve done this sort of work? There are a few in Berkeley I would like to try my hand at…
Twirrim 2y ago
This was over 20 years ago, not sure what I'll be able to find. This one is a bit frothing at the teeth, but I do recall a few others from after the congestion charge was introduced. It ended up being a minor controversy, and I could have sworn I read confirmation from later on, after the Ken Livingstone was no longer Mayor. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revealed-how-livingstone-has-brought-congestion-to-capital-179564.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revealed-how... And then from not long after it was introduced, you can see the AA blathering about it again: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2967852.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2967852.stm side note because I'm getting down votes: I'm one of those strongly in favour of congestion charges. I believe they made an improvement in London and not just because of these stunts. Of particular value was shifting a bunch of large vehicles to off-peak.

addicted 2y ago

This wouldn’t work in NYC even if they did try because the congestion pricing start date has been moved around a lot, including days before it was supposed to start the last time. But even more relevant is the fact that people have seen Manhattan gridlock for decades. If they were planning a move like that they would have had to start it in the 1980s at least.