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Why not lottery my dude (based on dob, license plate, whatever) ? Didn’t I equally pay for the infrastructure? I would argue that I paid even more than the mil

Why not lottery my dude (based on dob, license plate, whatever) ? Didn’t I equally pay for the infrastructure? I would argue that I paid even more than the millionaires, because I cannnot cheat on my taxes.

bdzr 2y ago
Oh god. Didn't they try to do something like this in Mexico City and it resulted in no change? Clever policy is always rife with unintended consequences; prices are good.
- whatever1 2y ago
  This is how China and most Europe does it for their big cities. Identical effectiveness minus the regressivity for the poor. If the city wants to buy more buses they can always send higher tax bills to their residents
  - lokar 2y ago
    Not true. The rich just get extra car with different plates.
BenFranklin100 2y ago
You paid far less. The top half of American pay almost 98% of federal taxes. The top 10% pay nearly three quarters. The American tax system is very progressive. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-irs-income-taxes-who-pays-the-most-and-least/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-irs-income-taxes-who-pays-t...
- whatever1 2y ago
  You have it wrong. You are grouping in that top 10% the millionaires/billionaires who pay nothing with the 6-figure W2 workhorses who cannot hide anything.
  - BenFranklin100 2y ago
    Stop equivocating. You said that ‘you’ (as in the lower income half) paid more. This is demonstrably false. The top half of Americans pay 97.7% of taxes. It may be you paid a higher percentage of your income despite the progressive nature of the American tax code which has a higher rate the more you make, via some tax breaks some wealthy people take advantage etc... It can also be that you paid a smaller percentage through an EITC. I don’t know without know your situation. It is definitely false that Americans making between $200-400K paid a smaller rate than you did. Your broad statement the poor are paying the bulk of support for public infrastructure is clearly wrong. Revise your priors.
    - whatever1 2y ago
      It is definitely true the millionaires paid less than me. 0 < any positive number. People who make 200k in W2 wages per year are not millionaires.

bdzr 2y ago

Oh god. Didn't they try to do something like this in Mexico City and it resulted in no change? Clever policy is always rife with unintended consequences; prices are good.

whatever1 2y ago
This is how China and most Europe does it for their big cities. Identical effectiveness minus the regressivity for the poor. If the city wants to buy more buses they can always send higher tax bills to their residents
- lokar 2y ago
  Not true. The rich just get extra car with different plates.

BenFranklin100 2y ago

You paid far less. The top half of American pay almost 98% of federal taxes. The top 10% pay nearly three quarters. The American tax system is very progressive. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-irs-income-taxes-who-pays-the-most-and-least/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-irs-income-taxes-who-pays-t...

whatever1 2y ago
You have it wrong. You are grouping in that top 10% the millionaires/billionaires who pay nothing with the 6-figure W2 workhorses who cannot hide anything.
- BenFranklin100 2y ago
  Stop equivocating. You said that ‘you’ (as in the lower income half) paid more. This is demonstrably false. The top half of Americans pay 97.7% of taxes. It may be you paid a higher percentage of your income despite the progressive nature of the American tax code which has a higher rate the more you make, via some tax breaks some wealthy people take advantage etc... It can also be that you paid a smaller percentage through an EITC. I don’t know without know your situation. It is definitely false that Americans making between $200-400K paid a smaller rate than you did. Your broad statement the poor are paying the bulk of support for public infrastructure is clearly wrong. Revise your priors.
  - whatever1 2y ago
    It is definitely true the millionaires paid less than me. 0 < any positive number. People who make 200k in W2 wages per year are not millionaires.