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> I am no audiophile but Sonos is actually quite expensive vs getting some streamer like Wiim with basic cheap amp and any solid speaker brand - KEF, Elac, Kli

> I am no audiophile but Sonos is actually quite expensive vs getting some streamer like Wiim with basic cheap amp and any solid speaker brand - KEF, Elac, Klipsh, Polk… The whole point is Sonos is easy. One product for speakers. Another one for a sub (which most people don't even need). Ok now you're done. And then there's people who really don't have space for all that.

bradly 2y ago
KEF LS50 Wireless IIs and Dutch & Dutch 8cs are just a couple example of how the hifi market has embraced embedded streamers. They are excellent options for high quality sound with very low setup.
- omnimus 2y ago
  You still miss the streamer. The speakers are active with bluetooth reciever but cant play music by themselves. I am not sure if then its not better to go sonos. Either go full modular or nothing. Active speakers are not popular exactly because its usually the amp that dies and then your speakers die with it. Then again you can look for wiim mini packaged with active speakers - they have colab/packages like this. I recently got wiim+edifier [1] in sale for 130usd and its shockingly good combo for fraction of sonos (especially since its stereo). [1] https://a.co/d/12SwuBQ https://a.co/d/12SwuBQ
  - bradly 2y ago
    > You still miss the streamer Are you familar with the models I've referenced? Both include streamers.
    - omnimus 2y ago
      Oh interesting. You are right i always thought they are not streamers and thats why i always dismissed idea of LS50 Wireless. That makes it indeed a lot more interesting if you are $$$ and dont really care if they one day stop software support.