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Thats mostly because of herdmentality not because of a considered approach. Decentralization assumes the majority are anti social.

zuppy 2y ago
what a convoluted way to say you do not agree with this. when you are dealing with people of all skill levels, every step that you put on the development process costs real money. over that, not everything is and has to be open source. we all have source code that is proprietary and has a value for us as it is. making that decentralized and private is not something easy to achieve (and I don't really see a benefit). the problem from my point of view is that we have a single player (github) that managed to attract a huge percent of the market and the competition, while it exists, it's minor.
- cyanydeez 2y ago
  ...ironic
theultdev 2y ago
How so? Decentralization can be hidden from the user, it's an implementation detail. There's literally a popular decentralized social network. It's less about the tech, and more about the execution. Historically we can look at LimeWire or PopcornTime as an example. Both decentralized, both popular due to the ease-of-use.
- p-e-w 2y ago
  > There's literally a popular decentralized social network. No there isn't. Not a single one. There are a few federated social networks, which is a fancy way of saying that they are centralized networks that have (or can have, in principle) more than one "center". In practice, the overwhelming majority of users of such networks gravitate towards one or a handful of large providers. And many of those providers actually refuse to federate with other providers unless they follow an ever-growing list of politically-charged rules. This is just centralization with extra steps.
  - theultdev 2y ago
    bluesky has over 27 million users
    - p-e-w 2y ago
      Bluesky is federated, not decentralized.
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sixo 2y ago
No, it's because complexity comes with a cognitive cost, and delegating responsibility to other entities minimizes this If you don't account for the benefit, it looks irrational, but this is true of absolutely anything

zuppy 2y ago

what a convoluted way to say you do not agree with this. when you are dealing with people of all skill levels, every step that you put on the development process costs real money. over that, not everything is and has to be open source. we all have source code that is proprietary and has a value for us as it is. making that decentralized and private is not something easy to achieve (and I don't really see a benefit). the problem from my point of view is that we have a single player (github) that managed to attract a huge percent of the market and the competition, while it exists, it's minor.

cyanydeez 2y ago
...ironic

theultdev 2y ago

How so? Decentralization can be hidden from the user, it's an implementation detail. There's literally a popular decentralized social network. It's less about the tech, and more about the execution. Historically we can look at LimeWire or PopcornTime as an example. Both decentralized, both popular due to the ease-of-use.

p-e-w 2y ago
> There's literally a popular decentralized social network. No there isn't. Not a single one. There are a few federated social networks, which is a fancy way of saying that they are centralized networks that have (or can have, in principle) more than one "center". In practice, the overwhelming majority of users of such networks gravitate towards one or a handful of large providers. And many of those providers actually refuse to federate with other providers unless they follow an ever-growing list of politically-charged rules. This is just centralization with extra steps.
- theultdev 2y ago
  bluesky has over 27 million users
  - p-e-w 2y ago
    Bluesky is federated, not decentralized.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]

sixo 2y ago

No, it's because complexity comes with a cognitive cost, and delegating responsibility to other entities minimizes this If you don't account for the benefit, it looks irrational, but this is true of absolutely anything