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I used to be a fan of Sonos and bought one of their speakers. The state of speakers to play music is actually pretty sad now: you're basically relegated to Sono
by jmyeet 2y ago
I used to be a fan of Sonos and bought one of their speakers. The state of speakers to play music is actually pretty sad now: you're basically relegated to Sonos or a smart speaker (which I do not want).
I believe my (rather old) Sonos is now not supported and there's really no reason for that. It's such a Google move (eg earlier Nests aren't Matter-compatible for really no reason).
Even when I was using it, there were basic issues that plague most network-connected devices: they're usually really bad with dealing with transient network issues. Like if my Internet hiccups, I don't want the Internet radio station I'm playing to stop and have to be manually restarted.
Also, Sonos insists (or it did when I last looked into it) of creating it's own 2.4GHz mesh network. There was really no way of forcing it to use your existing network. You could kind of turn off the internal mesh network and force it to use Ethernet but not entirely.
As a user, I want to play my Spotify or Apple Music and have that synced across multiple speakers. That's the real value proposition of something like Sonos. It shouldn't be that hard. Particularly with music, you get fetch the whole song. There's really no reason for a network interruption at all.
I don't necessarily want to use a dedicated app either. I want to treat my Sonos as just another output choice on Spotify like headphones or a Bluetooth speaker.
Fault tolerance and ease of setup is what something like Sonos should be about. And that's hard because you have to deal with a long-tail of issues like packet loss, token expiry with third-party providers and so on.
I have no idea what Sonos have been doing isntead.
- recursive 2y ago> you're basically relegated to Sonos or a smart speaker (which I do not want). I use dumb bookshelf speakers with Bluetooth support. Mine are "Edifier" brand, but there are others. Works perfectly. (at least as "perfect" as BT can ever get) No apps or smart stuff, beyond BT. On the other hand, when I'm trying to comprehend how to get audio from a TV into them, then I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I found one of the few remaining TVs with a headphone out, so I can use that. Next time my TV breaks, I guess I'll have to learn what is actually going with HDMI. Connecting arbitrary speakers to a TV seems like an arcane mystery.
- jmyeet 2y agoThe problem with Bluetooth is it doesn't have a really good audio codec. I really like the Sonos model of being a server that doesn't require a connected device to work as well.
- recursive 2y agoI have a lot of problems with bluetooth, including connection troubleshooting, latency, and getting notification sounds on top of the media stream. I've never heard a problem with fidelity before, and I am often picky about that. Like I can't stand the sound of satellite radio. Codec sounds horrible to me.