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> throw it all in the trash and start over People will think what you’re saying is hyperbole; however, I was on a walk with the family, and I saw a Sonos speak

> throw it all in the trash and start over People will think what you’re saying is hyperbole; however, I was on a walk with the family, and I saw a Sonos speaker in the trash. It looked like new and a fairly recent model. I lugged it home, and it was a $US500 Sonos Play:5 speaker system [1]. Once home, I plugged it in, and it powered up. I tried to pair it with my iPhone using the new Sonos app, and it didn’t work (the app never found the speaker). I then tried the same again using my development Android device, and it instantly worked! Once it was set up with the Android app, I could access it via the iPhone version of the app. I can only imagine some iPhone owner literally threw it in the trash because he couldn’t get the iOS app to work. Bonkers… [1] https://files.littlebird.com.au/pb-BfEVPbWlDe-hkxfK0.png https://files.littlebird.com.au/pb-BfEVPbWlDe-hkxfK0.png

aksss 2y ago
EEVBlog had a video about mod'ing a dumpster-found Sonos Play 5 into a cloud-free working system. EDIT: Whoops, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIk-4ItQ70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIk-4ItQ70 They (Sonos) basically willfully attempted to brick their consumer devices, and since many sonos customers were prosumer enthusiasts but not technical (hw or sw) it really did signal EOL for the products. Bananas. I still have a my Play1/3/5 infrastructure operating through Home Assistant and AirBridge that turns them into Airplay devices. It's not perfect but still gives them utility. Considering how much they f'n cost..
- schappim 2y ago
  Perfect! It turns out this was a Sonos Play 5 too[1], although mine is seems to be a newer Model S100! Funnily enough, I own an electronics company and Dave is just down the road :-) [1] https://files.littlebird.com.au/pb-BfEVPbWlDe-hkxfK0.png https://files.littlebird.com.au/pb-BfEVPbWlDe-hkxfK0.png
dmazzoni 2y ago
I have some old Sonos speakers that have been gathering dust for a while. I decided to sell them because they still have some value but I don't really want them, especially with what the company has done recently. However, I wanted to set them up again to make sure they work. I spent hours trying to get them to set up again with no luck. I'm sure this is exactly what other users are experiencing. The old app was so nice and reliable. I don't have an opinion on the new app because I just literally can't get it to connect. And I know they're not dead. One has an audio-in jack and still plays. It works great. There's no reason any of them shouldn't be fine. The only thing that changed was the app. I just want to get them set up so I can sell them on Marketplace for a good price as fully working.
- CamelCaseName 2y ago
  It's insane to think of the collective number of hours wasted on this. Yet people will still buy Sonos!
  - Spivak 2y ago
    Are there any alternatives (for multi-speaker synced audio) since the Chromecast Audio was discontinued?
    - applied_heat 2y ago
      I’m still using chromecast audio they work great!
    - gond 2y ago
      Have a look at these: bluesound, audiopro, bang-olufsen, denon. Depending on which software is in use for streaming operations, you could also use ‘standard’ WiFi-enabled speakers like something from KEF (LS50) or dynaudio. Just from top of my head. Maybe someone else has a comprehensive liste at hand.
    - marcuswestin 2y ago
      Soundboks 4 sync wirelessly with each other. They’re also battery driven and absurdly loud, so perfect for bringing outdoors or a dance party somewhere. They just had a 30% sale for the holidays though, so might not be worth getting them at full price
- jwr 2y ago
  Old Sonos hardware works great with Roon. I am very annoyed at the planned obsolescence that Sonos has been pushing for a while now. I stopped buying new Sonos hardware, I'm still using all my old hardware, just not with the terrible Sonos apps, but with Roon. I also took to aggressively repairing very old hardware that was actually failing (ZP80 players), because of the Sonos planned obsolescence policy. Recapping the PSU did the job, and I intend to keep them going for as long as I possibly can.
petepete 2y ago
Funnily enough I bought a Sub Mini last year and had to borrow an iPad to add it to my system because it failed on Android, even when being walked through the process by someone from Sonos support.
rozab 2y ago
Be thankful Sonos no longer have 'recycle mode' - an antifeature which gave customers a discount in exchange for permanently bricking their old Sonos hardware. They were forced to discontinue the practice after backlash. https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/5/21166777/sonos-ending-recycle-mode-trade-up-program-sustainability https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/5/21166777/sonos-ending-recy...

aksss 2y ago

EEVBlog had a video about mod'ing a dumpster-found Sonos Play 5 into a cloud-free working system. EDIT: Whoops, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIk-4ItQ70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIk-4ItQ70 They (Sonos) basically willfully attempted to brick their consumer devices, and since many sonos customers were prosumer enthusiasts but not technical (hw or sw) it really did signal EOL for the products. Bananas. I still have a my Play1/3/5 infrastructure operating through Home Assistant and AirBridge that turns them into Airplay devices. It's not perfect but still gives them utility. Considering how much they f'n cost..

schappim 2y ago
Perfect! It turns out this was a Sonos Play 5 too[1], although mine is seems to be a newer Model S100! Funnily enough, I own an electronics company and Dave is just down the road :-) [1] https://files.littlebird.com.au/pb-BfEVPbWlDe-hkxfK0.png https://files.littlebird.com.au/pb-BfEVPbWlDe-hkxfK0.png

dmazzoni 2y ago

I have some old Sonos speakers that have been gathering dust for a while. I decided to sell them because they still have some value but I don't really want them, especially with what the company has done recently. However, I wanted to set them up again to make sure they work. I spent hours trying to get them to set up again with no luck. I'm sure this is exactly what other users are experiencing. The old app was so nice and reliable. I don't have an opinion on the new app because I just literally can't get it to connect. And I know they're not dead. One has an audio-in jack and still plays. It works great. There's no reason any of them shouldn't be fine. The only thing that changed was the app. I just want to get them set up so I can sell them on Marketplace for a good price as fully working.

CamelCaseName 2y ago
It's insane to think of the collective number of hours wasted on this. Yet people will still buy Sonos!
- Spivak 2y ago
  Are there any alternatives (for multi-speaker synced audio) since the Chromecast Audio was discontinued?
  - applied_heat 2y ago
    I’m still using chromecast audio they work great!
  - gond 2y ago
    Have a look at these: bluesound, audiopro, bang-olufsen, denon. Depending on which software is in use for streaming operations, you could also use ‘standard’ WiFi-enabled speakers like something from KEF (LS50) or dynaudio. Just from top of my head. Maybe someone else has a comprehensive liste at hand.
  - marcuswestin 2y ago
    Soundboks 4 sync wirelessly with each other. They’re also battery driven and absurdly loud, so perfect for bringing outdoors or a dance party somewhere. They just had a 30% sale for the holidays though, so might not be worth getting them at full price
jwr 2y ago
Old Sonos hardware works great with Roon. I am very annoyed at the planned obsolescence that Sonos has been pushing for a while now. I stopped buying new Sonos hardware, I'm still using all my old hardware, just not with the terrible Sonos apps, but with Roon. I also took to aggressively repairing very old hardware that was actually failing (ZP80 players), because of the Sonos planned obsolescence policy. Recapping the PSU did the job, and I intend to keep them going for as long as I possibly can.

petepete 2y ago

Funnily enough I bought a Sub Mini last year and had to borrow an iPad to add it to my system because it failed on Android, even when being walked through the process by someone from Sonos support.

rozab 2y ago

Be thankful Sonos no longer have 'recycle mode' - an antifeature which gave customers a discount in exchange for permanently bricking their old Sonos hardware. They were forced to discontinue the practice after backlash. https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/5/21166777/sonos-ending-recycle-mode-trade-up-program-sustainability https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/5/21166777/sonos-ending-recy...