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Why and how is labelling unlikable behaviour as woke bad faith. As I understand the right using the term, they use it consistently to refer to a very specific t

Why and how is labelling unlikable behaviour as woke bad faith. As I understand the right using the term, they use it consistently to refer to a very specific type of behaviour they see as bad (one core aspect is prioritising signalling being virtuous over actually improving the world). Is your complaint that this usage unfairly co-opts the original left usage of the word?

thruway516 2y ago
Imagine I wrote an essay on Christianity and based it entirely on the behavior of evangelicals in the South who attend megachurchies (a very vocal minority). Surely you'd expect other Christians (all around the world) who equally claim true usage to object.
- bpt3 2y ago
  I think the similarities to a religion are a strong indication that there's a serious issue
  - kevingadd 2y ago
    "Anti-woke" itself has become something of a religion itself with no real core principles or guiding ruleset. In opposition to something that is poorly defined
  - thruway516 2y ago
    I only used religion as an example, not to set up a false dichotomy. It could be anything people care about - 'love', 'patriotism', 'fairness', 'rule of law' ...
    - bpt3 2y ago
      One of those is not like the others...
      - thruway516 2y ago
        'success','democracy', 'capitalism', 'free market' what is the correct interpretation of the constitution, who is the GOAT of [insert pursuit] and what qualities do they have to have, 'democracy', 'socialism' ...shall I go on?
- eadmund 2y ago
  > Imagine I wrote an essay on Christianity and based it entirely on the behavior of evangelicals in the South who attend megachurchies (a very vocal minority). I’d expect you to be published in the New York Times, the Washington Post. If you wrote it a bit longer, the Atlantic. If you wrote it poorly and irrationally, Slate.
  - finnthehuman 2y ago
    TIL all essays ever written are published in one of 4 outlets.
skywhopper 2y ago
You give them far too much credit. But more importantly, ask yourself who’s really the morality police at this point? The ones screaming “woke” all the time, vowing to strip “woke” people out of positions of power, seem pretty dangerous to me.
parpfish 2y ago
> they use it consistently to refer to a very specific type of behaviour they see as bad I disagree that their use is consistent and specific. Their usage is constant and is malleable enough to encompass "whatever i don't like right now".

thruway516 2y ago

Imagine I wrote an essay on Christianity and based it entirely on the behavior of evangelicals in the South who attend megachurchies (a very vocal minority). Surely you'd expect other Christians (all around the world) who equally claim true usage to object.

bpt3 2y ago
I think the similarities to a religion are a strong indication that there's a serious issue
- kevingadd 2y ago
  "Anti-woke" itself has become something of a religion itself with no real core principles or guiding ruleset. In opposition to something that is poorly defined
- thruway516 2y ago
  I only used religion as an example, not to set up a false dichotomy. It could be anything people care about - 'love', 'patriotism', 'fairness', 'rule of law' ...
  - bpt3 2y ago
    One of those is not like the others...
    - thruway516 2y ago
      'success','democracy', 'capitalism', 'free market' what is the correct interpretation of the constitution, who is the GOAT of [insert pursuit] and what qualities do they have to have, 'democracy', 'socialism' ...shall I go on?
eadmund 2y ago
> Imagine I wrote an essay on Christianity and based it entirely on the behavior of evangelicals in the South who attend megachurchies (a very vocal minority). I’d expect you to be published in the New York Times, the Washington Post. If you wrote it a bit longer, the Atlantic. If you wrote it poorly and irrationally, Slate.
- finnthehuman 2y ago
  TIL all essays ever written are published in one of 4 outlets.

skywhopper 2y ago

You give them far too much credit. But more importantly, ask yourself who’s really the morality police at this point? The ones screaming “woke” all the time, vowing to strip “woke” people out of positions of power, seem pretty dangerous to me.

parpfish 2y ago

> they use it consistently to refer to a very specific type of behaviour they see as bad I disagree that their use is consistent and specific. Their usage is constant and is malleable enough to encompass "whatever i don't like right now".