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We gave less rights to part-time workers so companies just started making as many part-time as possible. If you create a loop-hole it will be exploited.

wing-_-nuts 2y ago
Pretty much this. The ACA that said you had to offer health insurance to employees working over 30h / wk? Well, guess what, you're now only working 29.5. We should have just expanded medicare to cover everyone, but no, that'd give too much power to the workers.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > should have just expanded medicare to cover everyone Maybe the solution is to go piecemeal. We already have Medicaid for the poor--raise the limit on that. Expand Medicare to children and pregnant women. Et cetera. > that'd give too much power to the workers Medicare For All isn't popular [1]. There isn't a conspiracy, just people being cautious about a complicated and important topic. [1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/468401/majority-say-gov-ensure-healthcare.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/468401/majority-say-gov-ensure-...
  - wing-_-nuts 2y ago
    I think if you put it to the American people as a referendum 'Hey, we're going to get rid of private insurance and put everyone on Medicare, here's the budget estimate from the CBO' I'm quite confident it would pass. The sheer earned disdain I've seen expressed for health insurance providers recently makes me hope this is some sort of 'Abe Moment' for the US where even conservatives can acknowledge the majority of Americans are sickened by what our healthcare system has become.
    - bombcar 2y ago
      It'd almost certainly fail, because for many people (who haven't researched much) they consider "Medicare" the same as "crappy healthcare". You're much better off boiling the frog by expanding the availability of medicare through various means until almost everyone has it as an option even if they're not using it.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > sheer earned disdain I've seen expressed for health insurance providers recently "Americans' positive rating of the quality of healthcare in the U.S. is now at its lowest point in Gallup’s trend dating back to 2001," yet still, 71% rate the quality of their own healthcare excellent or good, with 65% saying the same about their coverage [1]. (I'm guessing the quarter to third minority that doesn't have a positive view of their own healthcare or coverage overlaps significantly with the one fifth who view Mangione very or somewhat positively [2].) [1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/654044/view-healthcare-quality-declines-year-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/654044/view-healthcare-quality-... [2] https://stratpolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/UHC-Poll.pdf https://stratpolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/UHC-Pol...

wing-_-nuts 2y ago

Pretty much this. The ACA that said you had to offer health insurance to employees working over 30h / wk? Well, guess what, you're now only working 29.5. We should have just expanded medicare to cover everyone, but no, that'd give too much power to the workers.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> should have just expanded medicare to cover everyone Maybe the solution is to go piecemeal. We already have Medicaid for the poor--raise the limit on that. Expand Medicare to children and pregnant women. Et cetera. > that'd give too much power to the workers Medicare For All isn't popular [1]. There isn't a conspiracy, just people being cautious about a complicated and important topic. [1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/468401/majority-say-gov-ensure-healthcare.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/468401/majority-say-gov-ensure-...
- wing-_-nuts 2y ago
  I think if you put it to the American people as a referendum 'Hey, we're going to get rid of private insurance and put everyone on Medicare, here's the budget estimate from the CBO' I'm quite confident it would pass. The sheer earned disdain I've seen expressed for health insurance providers recently makes me hope this is some sort of 'Abe Moment' for the US where even conservatives can acknowledge the majority of Americans are sickened by what our healthcare system has become.
  - bombcar 2y ago
    It'd almost certainly fail, because for many people (who haven't researched much) they consider "Medicare" the same as "crappy healthcare". You're much better off boiling the frog by expanding the availability of medicare through various means until almost everyone has it as an option even if they're not using it.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > sheer earned disdain I've seen expressed for health insurance providers recently "Americans' positive rating of the quality of healthcare in the U.S. is now at its lowest point in Gallup’s trend dating back to 2001," yet still, 71% rate the quality of their own healthcare excellent or good, with 65% saying the same about their coverage [1]. (I'm guessing the quarter to third minority that doesn't have a positive view of their own healthcare or coverage overlaps significantly with the one fifth who view Mangione very or somewhat positively [2].) [1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/654044/view-healthcare-quality-declines-year-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/654044/view-healthcare-quality-... [2] https://stratpolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/UHC-Poll.pdf https://stratpolitics.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/UHC-Pol...