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I've only been passively following the Wordpress drama. Almost a year ago, Mullenweg blogged about taking a 3 month sabbatical that I found interesting, and I a

by lenova 2y ago

I've only been passively following the Wordpress drama. Almost a year ago, Mullenweg blogged about taking a 3 month sabbatical that I found interesting, and I assumed this would have been a period of recharging... but things have seemed to gone off the rails since. Was there any correlational between the sabbatical and current drama, or was that just coincidence?

mrtksn 2y ago
Did he drink that psychoactive wine?
- ben_w 2y ago
  Surely non-psychoactive wine is just grape juice?
  - mrtksn 2y ago
    right, let’s try again: Did he drink THAT psychoactive wine?
    - throwup238 2y ago
      It’s more like a two stage tea made of an MAOI (the first type of antidepressant developed) and psychoactive tryptamines. Eight ball yoda says… bad trip sitter he did seek, hmm?
      - mrtksn 2y ago
        interesting. So what does that tea do to people? I’ve read some things and claims and that it’s popular among tech C suit.
        throwup238 2y ago
        The best primary source is the Erowid trip reports vault: https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ayahuasca.shtml https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ayahuasca.shtml First it makes people purge (vomit profusely) because the MAO enzymes normally break down the psychoactives in the stomach, and it reacts violently when the enzymes are inhibited with MAOIs. It's likely a reaction to something else in the plant because the psychoactives absorb into the stomach before they throw up. The technical name for what happens next is "full disassociation" which can best be described as the brain disconnecting from the sensor organs and then hallucinating whatever it wants in their place. The actual experience people have varies all over the place. Lots of trip reports of people seeing god, or aliens, or seeing their life flash before their eyes. It's popular among the Silicon Valley crowd in general from my experience, but specifically the ritualistic experience in the Amazon. Freebasing DMT isn't as popular.
      - deleted 2y ago
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      - mjmsmith 2y ago
        The machine elves need to unionize.
    - ben_w 2y ago
      I'm clearly missing some key context here, judging by the other two comments seeming to know what you're talking about, but I'm none the wiser about what's the deal with him and… Ayahuasca? which I'd never heard of before this thread.
      - mrtksn 2y ago
        There is some chatter about trend among techies drinking Ayahuasca and suddenly becoming a different person. I was curious if it could be related to the events that unfolded unexpectedly.
        ben_w 2y ago
        Thanks; none of that came up in a quick web search, so I would not have known.
- 65 2y ago
  Perhaps he tried some Ayahuasca and now "doesn't care about anything" and it reinforced his narcissism. Ayahuasca (and DMT for that matter) tend to make people not care about anything, so I wonder if he did some and has been affected by it. Just a guess, though.
  - realce 2y ago
    What a wild and disconnected assertion.
    - deleted 2y ago
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  - nejsjsjsbsb 2y ago
    Is Ayahuasca passé now?
  - doright 2y ago
    It makes one speculate how many people out there are just one trip away from having their inhibitions semi-permanently lowered to where they will no longer let the truth go unspoken. If only the neuroplasticity would engage and reconnect just enough neural pathways, what things they would end up "accomplishing" as a result, that they would be too inhibited to see otherwise. I know a lot of people I would be wary of if they were to consume psychedelics, given how they already act towards people with restraint.
  - miunau 2y ago
    I was just saying it's either ayahuasca or a divorce the other day. It's major divorced dude energy.
  - fancyswimtime 2y ago
    DMT makes people not care about anything? seems like a blanket statement without any basis
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Analemma_ 2y ago
It went off the rails during his sabbatical. He was ranting about WP "freeloaders" and doxxing random Tumblr users when he was supposed to be on vacation.
lenova 2y ago
Replying to myself here: why the heck are people assuming Ayahuasca? My comment never implied it, nor has Mullenweg mentioned it.
- system2 2y ago
  In business, a sabbatical means either you are quitting, going for a long vacation because you hate your job, or burnt out beyond repair and using fancy words like sabbatical before changing careers. Maybe that's made people think he was going to do drugs to chill.
  - lenova 2y ago
    But again, a 2 second google search will show that Mullenweg spoke openly about his plans for a sabbatical before taking it, and has spoken about the sabbatical numerous times afterwards on his blogs, on podcasts, and at conferences. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHPzdmks-HY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHPzdmks-HY The Ayahuasca comments in this thread are the people putting their own narrative on it, and as the OP of the thread, this was not my intention at all. This thread has just become made-up gossip.

by lenova 2y ago

mrtksn 2y ago

Did he drink that psychoactive wine?

ben_w 2y ago
Surely non-psychoactive wine is just grape juice?
- mrtksn 2y ago
  right, let’s try again: Did he drink THAT psychoactive wine?
  - throwup238 2y ago
    It’s more like a two stage tea made of an MAOI (the first type of antidepressant developed) and psychoactive tryptamines. Eight ball yoda says… bad trip sitter he did seek, hmm?
    - mrtksn 2y ago
      interesting. So what does that tea do to people? I’ve read some things and claims and that it’s popular among tech C suit.
      - throwup238 2y ago
        The best primary source is the Erowid trip reports vault: https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ayahuasca.shtml https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ayahuasca.shtml First it makes people purge (vomit profusely) because the MAO enzymes normally break down the psychoactives in the stomach, and it reacts violently when the enzymes are inhibited with MAOIs. It's likely a reaction to something else in the plant because the psychoactives absorb into the stomach before they throw up. The technical name for what happens next is "full disassociation" which can best be described as the brain disconnecting from the sensor organs and then hallucinating whatever it wants in their place. The actual experience people have varies all over the place. Lots of trip reports of people seeing god, or aliens, or seeing their life flash before their eyes. It's popular among the Silicon Valley crowd in general from my experience, but specifically the ritualistic experience in the Amazon. Freebasing DMT isn't as popular.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
    - mjmsmith 2y ago
      The machine elves need to unionize.
  - ben_w 2y ago
    I'm clearly missing some key context here, judging by the other two comments seeming to know what you're talking about, but I'm none the wiser about what's the deal with him and… Ayahuasca? which I'd never heard of before this thread.
    - mrtksn 2y ago
      There is some chatter about trend among techies drinking Ayahuasca and suddenly becoming a different person. I was curious if it could be related to the events that unfolded unexpectedly.
      - ben_w 2y ago
        Thanks; none of that came up in a quick web search, so I would not have known.
65 2y ago
Perhaps he tried some Ayahuasca and now "doesn't care about anything" and it reinforced his narcissism. Ayahuasca (and DMT for that matter) tend to make people not care about anything, so I wonder if he did some and has been affected by it. Just a guess, though.
- realce 2y ago
  What a wild and disconnected assertion.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
- nejsjsjsbsb 2y ago
  Is Ayahuasca passé now?
- doright 2y ago
  It makes one speculate how many people out there are just one trip away from having their inhibitions semi-permanently lowered to where they will no longer let the truth go unspoken. If only the neuroplasticity would engage and reconnect just enough neural pathways, what things they would end up "accomplishing" as a result, that they would be too inhibited to see otherwise. I know a lot of people I would be wary of if they were to consume psychedelics, given how they already act towards people with restraint.
- miunau 2y ago
  I was just saying it's either ayahuasca or a divorce the other day. It's major divorced dude energy.
- fancyswimtime 2y ago
  DMT makes people not care about anything? seems like a blanket statement without any basis
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]

Analemma_ 2y ago

It went off the rails during his sabbatical. He was ranting about WP "freeloaders" and doxxing random Tumblr users when he was supposed to be on vacation.

lenova 2y ago

Replying to myself here: why the heck are people assuming Ayahuasca? My comment never implied it, nor has Mullenweg mentioned it.

system2 2y ago
In business, a sabbatical means either you are quitting, going for a long vacation because you hate your job, or burnt out beyond repair and using fancy words like sabbatical before changing careers. Maybe that's made people think he was going to do drugs to chill.
- lenova 2y ago
  But again, a 2 second google search will show that Mullenweg spoke openly about his plans for a sabbatical before taking it, and has spoken about the sabbatical numerous times afterwards on his blogs, on podcasts, and at conferences. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHPzdmks-HY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHPzdmks-HY The Ayahuasca comments in this thread are the people putting their own narrative on it, and as the OP of the thread, this was not my intention at all. This thread has just become made-up gossip.