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The talk is literally about replacing developers, engineers, and scientist with AI. It is not advertised as a developer tool, it is advertised as a someone who

by mrtksn 2y ago

The talk is literally about replacing developers, engineers, and scientist with AI. It is not advertised as a developer tool, it is advertised as a someone who has PhD and ideally we will have AGI soon. companies are not talking about making even greater products they’re talking about cutting off developers through the same thing. for example, salesforce proudly announced that it’s not hiring the developers this year because they are going to use AI. they don’t intend to make even greater software with the same developers using AI, they intend to replace them. i’m getting the vibes that nobody at the top believes that AI actually can replace anybody. I find this interesting.

kube-system 2y ago
Advertisers are perennially full of shit. Generative AI is a technology, and just like literally every useful technology created since the dawn of man, it improves productivity. A box of literal rocks does not do anything on its own, even if we have tricked them into thinking even better than we did last year. Literally for hundreds of years have people been fear mongering that some new technology will replace workers. It never happens. Technology displaces the available distribution of jobs, but it doesn't eliminate the need for people... and it never will, because human jobs are a human construct. > salesforce proudly announced that it’s not hiring the developers this year because they are going to use AI. Yeah, more bullshit. Translated, they really mean: "Hey our AI is so great that we don't have to hire developers anymore -- it's definitely not because we have 70k+ employees and our payroll is way too big -- it's because we're so good at AI and you should totally buy our software #EinsteinAIRocks #SalesforceOhana"
- quesomaster9000 2y ago
  I agree, it's absolutely and entirely bullshit and is becoming an easy sloganism that you can bash around. Where "replacing developers, engineers, and scientist with AI" really is about 'doing more with less'... or... just 'doing more, faster?'. But it is genuinely replacing workers, in real terms. And more importantly it's replacing services, which in turn means jobs and revenue. So they too turn to electricity & automation, so they can do more... so they can remain competitive. So uh yea, I 100% agree with you there, and wish that more people saw straight through it like you do.
  - bigfatkitten 2y ago
    > But it is genuinely replacing workers, in real terms. Replacing whom? Can you name a single company that has laid off employees because AI is now doing the work?
bigfatkitten 2y ago
> for example, salesforce proudly announced that it’s not hiring the developers this year because they are going to use AI. Which is complete bullshit. Not only are they hiring right now, but having worked there, none of their engineering org's productivity pain points are going to be solved by AI.

by mrtksn 2y ago

kube-system 2y ago

Advertisers are perennially full of shit. Generative AI is a technology, and just like literally every useful technology created since the dawn of man, it improves productivity. A box of literal rocks does not do anything on its own, even if we have tricked them into thinking even better than we did last year. Literally for hundreds of years have people been fear mongering that some new technology will replace workers. It never happens. Technology displaces the available distribution of jobs, but it doesn't eliminate the need for people... and it never will, because human jobs are a human construct. > salesforce proudly announced that it’s not hiring the developers this year because they are going to use AI. Yeah, more bullshit. Translated, they really mean: "Hey our AI is so great that we don't have to hire developers anymore -- it's definitely not because we have 70k+ employees and our payroll is way too big -- it's because we're so good at AI and you should totally buy our software #EinsteinAIRocks #SalesforceOhana"

quesomaster9000 2y ago
I agree, it's absolutely and entirely bullshit and is becoming an easy sloganism that you can bash around. Where "replacing developers, engineers, and scientist with AI" really is about 'doing more with less'... or... just 'doing more, faster?'. But it is genuinely replacing workers, in real terms. And more importantly it's replacing services, which in turn means jobs and revenue. So they too turn to electricity & automation, so they can do more... so they can remain competitive. So uh yea, I 100% agree with you there, and wish that more people saw straight through it like you do.
- bigfatkitten 2y ago
  > But it is genuinely replacing workers, in real terms. Replacing whom? Can you name a single company that has laid off employees because AI is now doing the work?

bigfatkitten 2y ago

> for example, salesforce proudly announced that it’s not hiring the developers this year because they are going to use AI. Which is complete bullshit. Not only are they hiring right now, but having worked there, none of their engineering org's productivity pain points are going to be solved by AI.