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I already stated my approach. Let speech be met by more speech in return. Consumers can assess the credibility of each.
by baggy_trough 2y ago
I already stated my approach. Let speech be met by more speech in return. Consumers can assess the credibility of each.
- triceratops 2y ago> Consumers can assess the credibility of each. I ain't doing all that work. I'm picking whatever I already believe in. /s but only kind of. That's how most people think. They aren't enlightened like you.
- jandrese 2y agoBut your approach results in someone who can't even conceive of the truth being identifiable. It doesn't seem like a great way to run a society.
- baggy_trough 2y agoI am unable to connect your sentence to what I said.
- jandrese 2y ago> I have no faith that there is some authoritative entity that could objectively determine what is a lie and what is the truth. I read this as "it is impossible to determine truth". If there exists a well resourced entity who's entire purpose in life is to determine objective truth and they are unable to do so what chance do I have?
- baggy_trough 2y agoYou just have to use your best judgement like everybody else.
- jandrese 2y agoThat's the problem though. Your judgement gets warped by the constant stream of lies. That's the fundamental concept behind propaganda. If you repeat a lie enough times it will be believed. Everybody thinks they're too smart to be taken in by propaganda, that's one of the reasons it works so well.
- baggy_trough 2y agoThat's true, and it works both ways.
- potato3732842 2y agoHaving the power to determine truth does not seem like a great way to run a society even if it gets you some easy wins on other fronts. It might work at first and be effective for some time in the same way that a dictator can "get things done" but there is no free lunch. Eventually you will get evil dictators, power hungry arbitrators of truth. It will bite you. It is only a question of when. It might be years or generations. The only winning move is not to play. Don't concentrate the power in the first place.
- acuozzo 2y ago> Consumers can assess the credibility of each. Assuming intelligence is normally distributed, then what's the plan for the bottom 50% here?
- baggy_trough 2y agoAs stated.
- acuozzo 2y agoUnderstood. It's an interesting long-term strategy to revive Feudalism.
- baggy_trough 2y agoMore a strategy to avoid totalitarianism.
- acuozzo 2y agoBy leaving the bottom 50% to be propagandized by populists? If we were still living in the time of thirteen channels and Walter Cronkite on the CBS Evening News, I'd be inclined to agree with you.
- baggy_trough 2y agoAn elite thinking that they know the truth and should suppress falsehoods is much more dangerous, so yes.