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Anybody who formalizes their "homebrew KVM platform" into a marketable hypervisor product is going to make a lot of money I suspect. Every IT department I know

Anybody who formalizes their "homebrew KVM platform" into a marketable hypervisor product is going to make a lot of money I suspect. Every IT department I know is scrambling to replace their VMWare stack ASAP, including very large ones.

formerly_proven 2y ago
> Every IT department I know is scrambling to replace their VMWare stack ASAP, including very large ones. At least some of the big ones seem to just pay up. Probably because they / their MSP / their relationship with their MSP is so dysfunctional that they know migrating is a pipe dream.
- stackskipton 2y ago
  As former DevOps who dealt with VMware, it's not relationship with MSP. It's just so many things plugin to VMware that migrating off of VMware is just difficult. Monitoring, Backups, Deployment and so forth are deeply integrated into VMware so companies just look at work involved getting off and go, never mind.
dehrmann 2y ago
Most things that would have used VMware 15 years ago are using Kubernetes now. The things that aren't are probably looking at Proxmox or just KVM.
- taskforcegemini 2y ago
  >VMware 15 years ago are using Kubernetes now. this doesn't sound right, both serve different purposes
intelVISA 2y ago
Soon.
icedchai 2y ago
Is there a reason Proxmox wouldn't work for many of them?
- kube-system 2y ago
  Proxmox is limited in the tooling available to manage larger deployments. Although they have very recently made some good progress in improving support for these use cases.
  - guerby 2y ago
    https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Roadmap https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Road...
    - kube-system 2y ago
      Yep, that's the progress I'm referring to. I'd say this is pretty basic functionality (managing more than one cluster) for enterprise type deployments. Proxmox might do a lot, but it doesn't have feature parity with VMware's stuff.
downrightmike 2y ago
Or just use https://opennebula.io/ https://opennebula.io/ based on KVM, still works with vmware if needed. ~20 year old project. It has legs
rwmj 2y ago
There are tons of supported solutions in this space, such as Openstack, Kubevirt, and oVirt (and many more).
kashyapc 2y ago
As rwmj says in this thread, there are already several mature KVM-based solutions that you can run yourself, if you have the staff who can manage it. Disclosure: I also work in Red Hat's virtualization team, but not on converting gusts from VMware to KVM.

formerly_proven 2y ago

> Every IT department I know is scrambling to replace their VMWare stack ASAP, including very large ones. At least some of the big ones seem to just pay up. Probably because they / their MSP / their relationship with their MSP is so dysfunctional that they know migrating is a pipe dream.

stackskipton 2y ago
As former DevOps who dealt with VMware, it's not relationship with MSP. It's just so many things plugin to VMware that migrating off of VMware is just difficult. Monitoring, Backups, Deployment and so forth are deeply integrated into VMware so companies just look at work involved getting off and go, never mind.

dehrmann 2y ago

Most things that would have used VMware 15 years ago are using Kubernetes now. The things that aren't are probably looking at Proxmox or just KVM.

taskforcegemini 2y ago
>VMware 15 years ago are using Kubernetes now. this doesn't sound right, both serve different purposes

intelVISA 2y ago

Soon.

icedchai 2y ago

Is there a reason Proxmox wouldn't work for many of them?

kube-system 2y ago
Proxmox is limited in the tooling available to manage larger deployments. Although they have very recently made some good progress in improving support for these use cases.
- guerby 2y ago
  https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Roadmap https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Road...
  - kube-system 2y ago
    Yep, that's the progress I'm referring to. I'd say this is pretty basic functionality (managing more than one cluster) for enterprise type deployments. Proxmox might do a lot, but it doesn't have feature parity with VMware's stuff.

downrightmike 2y ago

Or just use https://opennebula.io/ https://opennebula.io/ based on KVM, still works with vmware if needed. ~20 year old project. It has legs

rwmj 2y ago

There are tons of supported solutions in this space, such as Openstack, Kubevirt, and oVirt (and many more).

kashyapc 2y ago

As rwmj says in this thread, there are already several mature KVM-based solutions that you can run yourself, if you have the staff who can manage it. Disclosure: I also work in Red Hat's virtualization team, but not on converting gusts from VMware to KVM.