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There's a good chance that if that if Microsoft doesn't act soon enough, and a lot more devices running Steam OS are released, Proton might become the de-facto
by InsideOutSanta 2y ago
There's a good chance that if that if Microsoft doesn't act soon enough, and a lot more devices running Steam OS are released, Proton might become the de-facto platform against which many new games are developed, and which engines target.
At that point, there is nothing Microsoft can do.
- freedomben 2y agoAgreed. I actually think it might be too late at this point since it takes so long to turn the aircraft carrier. Microsoft can't realistically deprecate/remove Win32, so all they could do is entice with new APIs. That will work for some games, but especially with the frameworks in place, they'll have to be really good to get people to abandon Steam Deck compatibility to use them.
- pjmlp 2y agoThey already control enough studios, PC and XBox market. SteckDeck compatibility relies on "emulating" Windows ecosystem. Remember DR-DOS, OS/2 and EEE PC.
- BlueTemplar 2y agoEEE PC was tiny, IBM (OS/2) were full of hubris, what happened to DR-DOS ? Valve is neither tiny, nor does seem to be under the thrall of hubris. Also Microsoft seems complacent so far, though that might change.
- pjmlp 2y agoOriginally Windows was designed to detect and not run if using DR-DOS.
- kbolino 2y agoThey bought a lot of companies and are doing their level best at running them into the ground. Xbox is a dying platform. They may try some things that they've tried before (GFWL) but they're not going to succeed this time either. Kernel-level anti-cheat is a bigger threat to gaming on Linux than anything Microsoft has directly done, but even that is fixable.
- cyberax 2y ago> Kernel-level anti-cheat is a bigger threat to gaming on Linux than anything Microsoft has directly done, but even that is fixable. I can see companies sending out hardened Linux distros to hardcore Valorant players for official tournaments and such.
- robertlagrant 2y ago> Kernel-level anti-cheat is a bigger threat to gaming on Linux than anything Microsoft has directly done, but even that is fixable. Agreed. Valve providing some service that gives local games less info, so they literally don't know where players are until they need to, might spell an end to wall hacking at least.
- wqaatwt 2y agoSure, MS could purposefully try and make their first party games not run on Linux. However.. why? It would be the same as purposefully losing money but not selling on Steam. Besides that what could they do? Within getting into all types of legal trouble?
- pjmlp 2y agoMicrosoft controls Windows and DirectX, Valve only gets to play until Windows landlord allows it. DR-DOS, OS/2 and EEE PC. Lets see if SteamOS makes the list as well, this is after all round two, Steam Machines didn't go that well.
- Yeul 2y agoMicrosoft tried to put their games on their own store but they crawled back to Steam. Honestly Windows is more open than MS haters give it credit for.
- kbolino 2y agoYeah, GFWL was a debacle that has thankfully been largely forgotten. If Microsoft couldn't pull it off back then, they're not going to today.
- BlueTemplar 2y agoThey now own Activision-Blizzard-King, which even now (new Battle.net) is still better than GFWD ever was.
- pjmlp 2y agoThey did, does mean they will let Valve screw SteamOS on their face.
- wqaatwt 2y agoAnd what exactly would they do?
- jwcooper 2y agoThe Steam Deck is basically the successor to the Steam Machines. The actual hardware didn't go that well, but they laid the foundation in software for what we have now. So, in a way, the Steam Machines were a great success. Also, Valve has (for better and worse) far more power and control in the gaming ecosystem than most companies Microsoft has to deal with.