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It should be easy for a human at TfL to make an assessment on something like this, see the autistic and technical value, and offer a free but heavily restricted

It should be easy for a human at TfL to make an assessment on something like this, see the autistic and technical value, and offer a free but heavily restricted license to the developer. But is suppose many organisations just don't give people the autonomy and authority to do such tings.

VoidWhisperer 2y ago
For that specific map, based on what the email he got sent from TfL said, I don't think they directly have permission to issue that license - their site says people have to go through the partner who produced the schematic art to get a license
- tankenmate 2y ago
  Except the schematic art is covered by copyright, not trademark.
  - tuukkah 2y ago
    On their website, TfL says both things: 1. The map is covered by copyright. 2. The only way to get a license is to buy one from their map partner. > We protect the map under copyright and officially license it for brands and businesses to reproduce it. > To use the map in your design, you must have the permission of our map licensing partner, Pindar Creative. This is the only way to officially license the map, no matter how you'd like to use it. Yet, they don't even mention the case you might be a third-party developer providing a non-profit service. https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/map-licensing https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/map-lic... > For registered charities and schools, the licence is royalty free, but we still charge an artwork fee of £352 + VAT https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/using-the-maps https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/using-t...
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      > For registered charities and schools, the licence is royalty free, but we still charge an artwork fee of £352 + VAT Institution funded by taxpayers charging institutions funded by donors and taxpayers. Be nice if there were any value being added, rather than just exchanged.
- tuukkah 2y ago
  If TfL hasn't bought the full rights to their map layouts, the shame is on them.
jrochkind1 2y ago
autistic value? Trains? I see what you did there?
- samwillis 2y ago
  s/autistic/artistic I violated my own rule of always re-reading a post 5 min after posting it...

VoidWhisperer 2y ago

For that specific map, based on what the email he got sent from TfL said, I don't think they directly have permission to issue that license - their site says people have to go through the partner who produced the schematic art to get a license

tankenmate 2y ago
Except the schematic art is covered by copyright, not trademark.
- tuukkah 2y ago
  On their website, TfL says both things: 1. The map is covered by copyright. 2. The only way to get a license is to buy one from their map partner. > We protect the map under copyright and officially license it for brands and businesses to reproduce it. > To use the map in your design, you must have the permission of our map licensing partner, Pindar Creative. This is the only way to officially license the map, no matter how you'd like to use it. Yet, they don't even mention the case you might be a third-party developer providing a non-profit service. https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/map-licensing https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/map-lic... > For registered charities and schools, the licence is royalty free, but we still charge an artwork fee of £352 + VAT https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/using-the-maps https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/business-and-advertisers/using-t...
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    > For registered charities and schools, the licence is royalty free, but we still charge an artwork fee of £352 + VAT Institution funded by taxpayers charging institutions funded by donors and taxpayers. Be nice if there were any value being added, rather than just exchanged.
tuukkah 2y ago
If TfL hasn't bought the full rights to their map layouts, the shame is on them.

jrochkind1 2y ago

autistic value? Trains? I see what you did there?

samwillis 2y ago
s/autistic/artistic I violated my own rule of always re-reading a post 5 min after posting it...