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Here's the first hit on a quick quack from the Duck: https://www.wikihow.com/Spot-High-Quality-Clothing https://www.wikihow.com/Spot-High-Quality-Clothing

eesmith 2y ago
Which shows the importance of in-store purchases over sight-unseen. > Popular high-quality brands include Levi Strauss & Co I regards that as highly suspect advice. I stopped buying jeans because even name brand jeans weren't durable. Another quick quack finds https://www.thebubble.org.uk/culture/the-decline-of-quality-how-did-we-end-up-wearing-rubbish/ https://www.thebubble.org.uk/culture/the-decline-of-quality-... saying "A recent experiment demonstrates this decline in quality over the last 30 years, through testing Levi’s jeans, whose slogan states (ironically) that ‘Quality never goes out of style’ . Two pairs of Levi’s jeans were put to the test – a pair manufactured between 1985 and 2000, and a pair manufactured between 2017 and 2018. The experiment found that the older jeans were stronger and wore less quickly than the newer ones, even through the fabric was much older." It links to https://thecorrespondent.com/416/fashion-unravelled-why-you-get-holes-in-your-t-shirts-faster-even-when-you-pay-more https://thecorrespondent.com/416/fashion-unravelled-why-you-... which adds "Even high-end brands sometimes seem like they don’t last much more than one season." Ha. And "The most expensive pair seemed to be primarily intended for people who value style more than sustainability." Disgusting.
- Over2Chars 2y ago
  I provided a link to the first quack because it showed the nature of what I was talking about: a "positive" education on quality, namely what to look for. One can digress into arguments about Levi's or nit pick any particular website/video all day. But quality is just one factor, and if locally produced goods were of inferior quality to imported goods, it might be still be preferable to buy domestically produced goods.
  - eesmith 2y ago
    > it showed the nature of what I was talking about My apologies. Yes, it did do that. The overall point is that you have to be there in person to judge quality - there was no advice for how to do it with internet sales. The rest of my reply was, as they say, me being triggered.
    - Over2Chars 2y ago
      Yes, you bring up a real problem - the dominance of "sale by mail". But I think if there is a return policy or a 'try before you buy' one then the usual quality inspection might work. Postal based sales (mediated by a web interface or whatever) would be a problem of evaluating the quality of domestic (presumably higher quality) goods. The now antiquated in-person retail outlet allowed you to inspect the goods before you purchased. Now we just hope some AI summary of reviews and a "star system" will provide us quality goods....?

eesmith 2y ago

Which shows the importance of in-store purchases over sight-unseen. > Popular high-quality brands include Levi Strauss & Co I regards that as highly suspect advice. I stopped buying jeans because even name brand jeans weren't durable. Another quick quack finds https://www.thebubble.org.uk/culture/the-decline-of-quality-how-did-we-end-up-wearing-rubbish/ https://www.thebubble.org.uk/culture/the-decline-of-quality-... saying "A recent experiment demonstrates this decline in quality over the last 30 years, through testing Levi’s jeans, whose slogan states (ironically) that ‘Quality never goes out of style’ . Two pairs of Levi’s jeans were put to the test – a pair manufactured between 1985 and 2000, and a pair manufactured between 2017 and 2018. The experiment found that the older jeans were stronger and wore less quickly than the newer ones, even through the fabric was much older." It links to https://thecorrespondent.com/416/fashion-unravelled-why-you-get-holes-in-your-t-shirts-faster-even-when-you-pay-more https://thecorrespondent.com/416/fashion-unravelled-why-you-... which adds "Even high-end brands sometimes seem like they don’t last much more than one season." Ha. And "The most expensive pair seemed to be primarily intended for people who value style more than sustainability." Disgusting.

Over2Chars 2y ago
I provided a link to the first quack because it showed the nature of what I was talking about: a "positive" education on quality, namely what to look for. One can digress into arguments about Levi's or nit pick any particular website/video all day. But quality is just one factor, and if locally produced goods were of inferior quality to imported goods, it might be still be preferable to buy domestically produced goods.
- eesmith 2y ago
  > it showed the nature of what I was talking about My apologies. Yes, it did do that. The overall point is that you have to be there in person to judge quality - there was no advice for how to do it with internet sales. The rest of my reply was, as they say, me being triggered.
  - Over2Chars 2y ago
    Yes, you bring up a real problem - the dominance of "sale by mail". But I think if there is a return policy or a 'try before you buy' one then the usual quality inspection might work. Postal based sales (mediated by a web interface or whatever) would be a problem of evaluating the quality of domestic (presumably higher quality) goods. The now antiquated in-person retail outlet allowed you to inspect the goods before you purchased. Now we just hope some AI summary of reviews and a "star system" will provide us quality goods....?