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Duck Duck Go: end of human civilization than it is to imagine a world without capitalism limit to last year I get: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science

by Vecr 2y ago

Duck Duck Go: end of human civilization than it is to imagine a world without capitalism limit to last year I get: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-civilization-collapse-world-end-apocalypse-b2665336.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-civilizatio... (The end of the world as we know it? Theorist warns humanity is .) https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/its-still-easier-to-imagine-the-end https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/its-still-easier-to-imagine... (It's Still Easier To Imagine The End Of The World Than The End Of ...) https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/apocalypse-stories-allure-dorian-lynskey-glenn-adamson/681097/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/apocaly... (A History of the End of the World - The Atlantic) https://medium.com/write-a-catalyst/imaging-a-world-after-capitalism-1e966b2952f0 https://medium.com/write-a-catalyst/imaging-a-world-after-ca... (Imaging a World After Capitalism - Medium) https://orwellsociety.com/can-we-truly-rebel/ https://orwellsociety.com/can-we-truly-rebel/ (Can We Truly Rebel? - The Orwell Society) Yes I think that's known. Astral Codex is about AI, so maybe we'll get the end of the world, and the end of capitalism, and huge quantities of AI slop Tintin!

Gormo 2y ago
You're looking at aggregate patterns of human behavior, which originate in the pre-existing inclinations and motivations of those humans, and then trying to attribute them to some externalized, reified abstraction. "Capitalism" construed as some entity unto itself simply does not exist. There is no "end of capitalism" that isn't itself an element of a general collapse of social organization and economic exchange.
- marxisttemp 2y ago
  So feudalism was a general collapse of social organization and economic exchange? Your analysis of capitalism is blinded by your obvious ideological bias
  - Gormo 2y ago
    No, that's another abstraction. "Feudalism" is a descriptive term for a particular pattern of reciprocal obligations that was common in Western societies (though not dominant in the particular society that our own evolved from) in the past. The emergent patterns shifted, but the underlying reality -- that it all is just patterns of behavior engaged in by human beings with the same fundamental motivations and intentions -- remains. There was never an separate entity called "feudalism" just as there is no entity called "capitalism" acting as a causal agent. And the problem here is that the things you're arguing against aren't particular to that emergent pattern -- they're the lower-order motivations that inform the underlying behavior itself. There is no "analysis of capitalism". Your either analyzing real-life human beings or you're analyzing imaginary phantoms in your own mind.

by Vecr 2y ago

Gormo 2y ago

You're looking at aggregate patterns of human behavior, which originate in the pre-existing inclinations and motivations of those humans, and then trying to attribute them to some externalized, reified abstraction. "Capitalism" construed as some entity unto itself simply does not exist. There is no "end of capitalism" that isn't itself an element of a general collapse of social organization and economic exchange.

marxisttemp 2y ago
So feudalism was a general collapse of social organization and economic exchange? Your analysis of capitalism is blinded by your obvious ideological bias
- Gormo 2y ago
  No, that's another abstraction. "Feudalism" is a descriptive term for a particular pattern of reciprocal obligations that was common in Western societies (though not dominant in the particular society that our own evolved from) in the past. The emergent patterns shifted, but the underlying reality -- that it all is just patterns of behavior engaged in by human beings with the same fundamental motivations and intentions -- remains. There was never an separate entity called "feudalism" just as there is no entity called "capitalism" acting as a causal agent. And the problem here is that the things you're arguing against aren't particular to that emergent pattern -- they're the lower-order motivations that inform the underlying behavior itself. There is no "analysis of capitalism". Your either analyzing real-life human beings or you're analyzing imaginary phantoms in your own mind.