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Woah there, dude. I wasn't arguing that spam is not a big deal; I wasn't really arguing anything at all. I was saying that the "85-97% of all email is spam" sta
by thaumaturgy 14y ago
Woah there, dude. I wasn't arguing that spam is not a big deal; I wasn't really arguing anything at all. I was saying that the "85-97% of all email is spam" statistic no longer jives with what I see on my servers -- at all. I'd have to whip up a quick script to munge my mail logs, but I'd expect around 90% of all messages the MTA actually handles to be legit.
However, since you asked so politely: I don't have extra hardware (I think e.g. Barracuda is crap), and I wouldn't say I have an entire software stack -- just that sqlgrey & spamassassin are components of the mail server software stack that I use.
I think that whether spam is a big deal or not depends a lot on the tools you use. I put a lot of time and effort initially into building a software stack that could handle spam (and other problems) more-or-less on its own, and now spend pretty close to no time at all having to personally deal with problems related to spam. Conversely, the ISP I used to work for went with a Barracuda appliance and had a pretty poor mail server configuration that they didn't want to overhaul, and AFAIK they still have to spend significant amounts of support time dealing with spam-related complaints.
It could be argued that since I had to spend a lot of time and effort on the initial setup, spam is a big deal. I don't think I'd disagree with that. But, it doesn't have to be a big deal every day.
- sp332 14y agoAlright I incorrectly assumed sqlgrey etc. were running on another box. But just because you filter out the spam before your MTA sees it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist! 2008: 85% http://arstechnica.com/security/2008/07/report-81-5-percent-of-all-e-mails-sent-in-june-were-spam/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2008/07/report-81-5-percent-... down to 73% in 2009 when McColo was taken out http://arstechnica.com/business/2009/03/spam-slightly-lower-in-february-but-botnets-still-lurking/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2009/03/spam-slightly-lower-... but back up to 88% by 2010 before Rustock was taken out http://arstechnica.com/security/2011/03/rustock-repercussions-spam-down-by-a-third-at-least-for-now/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2011/03/rustock-repercussion... which (last I checked) put it down to 75% again http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/spam-levels-still-low-a-year-after-rustock-botnet-takedown/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/spam-levels-still-lo...