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I am typing this on my MacBook Pro early 2015. Dual Core i5 with 8GB Memory. For 99% of usage on Chrome and Firefox it is fine. ( 12 years using Safari it is st

by ksec 2y ago

I am typing this on my MacBook Pro early 2015. Dual Core i5 with 8GB Memory. For 99% of usage on Chrome and Firefox it is fine. ( 12 years using Safari it is still the worst browser for many tabs ) Basically the last real big jump in performance was SSD. I have used M1 - M3 Macbook at work. While they are faster it wasn't that much faster compared to the switch between HDD and SSD. Even On devices Voice Dictation and other AI features worked pretty well. As many stated software is getting slower. Security and all the other requirement will likely put more burden on your machine. So there may be a need to upgrade this 2015 machine in the future, but as far as I am concern most of those have to do with Memory rather than CPU performance. I could have a 2015 Quad Core MacBook Pro and 32GB and I am sure it will last me till 2030. ARM and Qualcomm have both catch up to Apple in CPU performance. Oryon and Cortex X725 is now within ~12% ( IIRC ) IPC difference or even similar if you ignore a small type of workload. With X730 and Oryon 2 both expect to eliminate or even exceed that gap. Unless A19 / M5 pull some other magic tricks we have basically make High CPU Performance a commodity.

tonyarkles 2y ago
My daily driver is also a (16GB) 2015 MBP and the only reason I’m starting to consider an upgrade is because of the scary “unsupported OS” warnings that brew is starting to show. I don’t really look forward to the day when that warning changes from “things could break at any time” to “your system is now broken”.
- wpm 2y ago
  Macports is always there once homebrew abandons you.
  - dp-hackernews 2y ago
    Or nixpkgs :-)
- ksec 2y ago
  You can still install latest macOS with some work.[1] If you have places for full backup. I have yet to encounter any issues. It will probably take a few hours of hassle which for a lot people is not worth it. I want to do it just to see how far I can get out of this machine. You may want to do some research before trusting my words. [1]https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/
- ryandrake 2y ago
  Mac hardware almost universally outlasts their software, which is a damn shame. Perfectly working hardware needs to eventually get thrown away because they can’t be bothered to keep their software working on it. If there was one thing I would fix about the software industry with a magic wand it’s this constant need to be on a buying treadmill because software developers refuse to support legacy hardware.
dgemm 2y ago
The M1 macbook did feel like a big jump for me because it had great performance and no fan, which was a huge thing compared to everything else at the time.
- ksec 2y ago
  Agree. This reminded me that I am talking about mac and forgotten about PC. I have a 2018 Thinkpad ( which uses KabyLake, a 2016 CPU ) at work for specific usage and it is absolutely piece of crap. Not only is the Fan constantly spinning, all the security extra due to policy and requirement making it absurdly slow. It is also another reminder, hardware cant out innovate software performance issues.

by ksec 2y ago

tonyarkles 2y ago

My daily driver is also a (16GB) 2015 MBP and the only reason I’m starting to consider an upgrade is because of the scary “unsupported OS” warnings that brew is starting to show. I don’t really look forward to the day when that warning changes from “things could break at any time” to “your system is now broken”.

wpm 2y ago
Macports is always there once homebrew abandons you.
- dp-hackernews 2y ago
  Or nixpkgs :-)
ksec 2y ago
You can still install latest macOS with some work.[1] If you have places for full backup. I have yet to encounter any issues. It will probably take a few hours of hassle which for a lot people is not worth it. I want to do it just to see how far I can get out of this machine. You may want to do some research before trusting my words. [1]https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/
ryandrake 2y ago
Mac hardware almost universally outlasts their software, which is a damn shame. Perfectly working hardware needs to eventually get thrown away because they can’t be bothered to keep their software working on it. If there was one thing I would fix about the software industry with a magic wand it’s this constant need to be on a buying treadmill because software developers refuse to support legacy hardware.

dgemm 2y ago

The M1 macbook did feel like a big jump for me because it had great performance and no fan, which was a huge thing compared to everything else at the time.

ksec 2y ago
Agree. This reminded me that I am talking about mac and forgotten about PC. I have a 2018 Thinkpad ( which uses KabyLake, a 2016 CPU ) at work for specific usage and it is absolutely piece of crap. Not only is the Fan constantly spinning, all the security extra due to policy and requirement making it absurdly slow. It is also another reminder, hardware cant out innovate software performance issues.