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I actually think the current approach was a deliberate strategy. Rather than help Ukraine quickly win the war they prefer to slow bleed Russia to help their ai

I actually think the current approach was a deliberate strategy. Rather than help Ukraine quickly win the war they prefer to slow bleed Russia to help their aims in Syria, Iran, Taiwan etc.

throwaway48476 2y ago
Blunt russian power yes. It doesn't work though, such weakness has only emboldened the Chinese who have started building landing barges to invade taiwan. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/01/china-suddenly-building-fleet-of-special-barges-suitable-for-taiwan-landings/ https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/01/china-suddenly-...
- red-iron-pine 2y ago
  bro those barges were getting build regardless. already on their road map, they just decided to do em all at once.
throwaway12810 2y ago
And economically strangle the EU, which is now additionally danger of being crushed between whatever is bargained between Trump and Putin. At this stage it is impossible to say whether Syria and possibly Greenland are part of a bargain to end the Ukraine war (You get the four provinces, we get Syria and take Greenland from the EU, probably by political influence via NGOs and a sort of color revolution that leads to the "independence" of Greenland).
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  Color revolutions only exist in the paranoid mind of dictators.
  - dictionary_guy 2y ago
    Interestingly, Wikipedia is run by dictators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution But thanks for updating us on the latest forbidden term. I wonder how many words we will have left next year.
    - throwaway48476 2y ago
      As a dictator it's much easier to believe the CIA is trying to overthrow you instead of acknowledging that your economic mismanagement has made you unpopular. Surrounding yourself with yes men keeps you out of touch with popular sentiment.
    - rat87 2y ago
      > The colour revolutions (sometimes coloured revolutions)[1] were a series of often non-violent protests and accompanying (attempted or successful) changes of government and society that took place in post-Soviet states (particularly Georgia, Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan) and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia during the early 21st century.[2] The aim of the colour revolutions was to establish Western-style liberal democracies. They were primarily triggered by election results widely viewed as falsified. The colour revolutions were marked by the use of the internet as a method of communication,[3] as well as a strong role of non-governmental organizations in the protests. In the paranoid claims and propaganda of dictators they claim they were something else If you want to indulge in pointless conspiracies (some of which are heavily pushed by foreign dictators) go ahead
cyberax 2y ago
Nah. It's explained by the regular stupidity. The Western governments had to show that they are doing something.
- rainworld 2y ago
  No, worse. They trusted their experts and they trusted what the Ukrainians reported. They smelled blood and giddily thought they had the opportunity to humiliate Russia—without getting their hands too dirty. Culminating in the resounding failure of the 2023 Kontr. By fall 2023 they knew the score. But they couldn’t get out then and they still can’t.
  - throwaway48476 2y ago
    'Kontr' sounds like an untranslated word no doubt taken verbatim from some low budget propaganda.
    - rainworld 2y ago
      >low budget propaganda That’s really what it boils down to for people like you: the production values. No contest, the US is unbeatable in that department. Anything but to be seen as a sucker. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%8...
      - throwaway48476 2y ago
        The more sophisticated the population the higher the production value is. If the population are idiots who will believe anything then why bother overproducing, slop will do. It's cheaper that way. And yes, your foreign shilling is that obvious.

I actually think the current approach was a deliberate strategy. Rather than help Ukraine quickly win the war they prefer to slow bleed Russia to help their aims in Syria, Iran, Taiwan etc.

throwaway48476 2y ago

Blunt russian power yes. It doesn't work though, such weakness has only emboldened the Chinese who have started building landing barges to invade taiwan. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/01/china-suddenly-building-fleet-of-special-barges-suitable-for-taiwan-landings/ https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/01/china-suddenly-...

red-iron-pine 2y ago
bro those barges were getting build regardless. already on their road map, they just decided to do em all at once.

throwaway12810 2y ago

And economically strangle the EU, which is now additionally danger of being crushed between whatever is bargained between Trump and Putin. At this stage it is impossible to say whether Syria and possibly Greenland are part of a bargain to end the Ukraine war (You get the four provinces, we get Syria and take Greenland from the EU, probably by political influence via NGOs and a sort of color revolution that leads to the "independence" of Greenland).

throwaway48476 2y ago
Color revolutions only exist in the paranoid mind of dictators.
- dictionary_guy 2y ago
  Interestingly, Wikipedia is run by dictators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution But thanks for updating us on the latest forbidden term. I wonder how many words we will have left next year.
  - throwaway48476 2y ago
    As a dictator it's much easier to believe the CIA is trying to overthrow you instead of acknowledging that your economic mismanagement has made you unpopular. Surrounding yourself with yes men keeps you out of touch with popular sentiment.
  - rat87 2y ago
    > The colour revolutions (sometimes coloured revolutions)[1] were a series of often non-violent protests and accompanying (attempted or successful) changes of government and society that took place in post-Soviet states (particularly Georgia, Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan) and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia during the early 21st century.[2] The aim of the colour revolutions was to establish Western-style liberal democracies. They were primarily triggered by election results widely viewed as falsified. The colour revolutions were marked by the use of the internet as a method of communication,[3] as well as a strong role of non-governmental organizations in the protests. In the paranoid claims and propaganda of dictators they claim they were something else If you want to indulge in pointless conspiracies (some of which are heavily pushed by foreign dictators) go ahead

cyberax 2y ago

Nah. It's explained by the regular stupidity. The Western governments had to show that they are doing something.

rainworld 2y ago
No, worse. They trusted their experts and they trusted what the Ukrainians reported. They smelled blood and giddily thought they had the opportunity to humiliate Russia—without getting their hands too dirty. Culminating in the resounding failure of the 2023 Kontr. By fall 2023 they knew the score. But they couldn’t get out then and they still can’t.
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  'Kontr' sounds like an untranslated word no doubt taken verbatim from some low budget propaganda.
  - rainworld 2y ago
    >low budget propaganda That’s really what it boils down to for people like you: the production values. No contest, the US is unbeatable in that department. Anything but to be seen as a sucker. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%8...
    - throwaway48476 2y ago
      The more sophisticated the population the higher the production value is. If the population are idiots who will believe anything then why bother overproducing, slop will do. It's cheaper that way. And yes, your foreign shilling is that obvious.