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I've spent years as an auditor. The thing I always tried to figure out was the "root cause". The root cause for global warming is not that company XYZ doesn't p

I've spent years as an auditor. The thing I always tried to figure out was the "root cause". The root cause for global warming is not that company XYZ doesn't plant trees, so "let's <find some solution> to offset the <insert problem>", but find the root cause, and stop/limit/correct/<verb> that cause. Now this is literally a hydra. Consumerism? Yes! Plastics and the lies of oil industry that 'plastic(s) is/are recyclable? Yes! Politics? Yes! Greed? Yes! Big bubble global economy that nobody wants it to bust/rightsize? Yes! Musk has said many things about many topics. One that I admired one thing he said some years back was (along the lines of..) "for humans going to inhabit Mars it is better that they make up their own laws, and I (he) hopes they will do a better job than what we did on earth". I don't feel/believe that Earth will ever be repaired/become pristine while it has humans on it. Perhaps we will wipe ourselves out and 1000 years later, once all signs of civilization will be consumed by floods, earthquakes, nature, the planet will be pristine. It's just a Arrow Paradox (Zeno's paradoxes). I fear an Idiocracy/Wall-e kinda future. This cartoon comes to mind: https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995 https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995

airstrike 2y ago
People create value for shareholders because doing so creates value for themselves and their households. Humans brains are wired to hog resources at the expense of others. We generally share with our neighbor to the extent that helps us have more in the future. You can't weasel your way out of human nature. Also thinking we can write better laws if we start from scratch is typical hubris from someone who's never really studied Law. Just another variant of the most common SV syndrome.
- mandmandam 2y ago
  > thinking we can write better laws if we start from scratch is typical hubris from someone who's never really studied Law It is. However, looking at the US legal system as someone who isn't profiting from it, it's difficult to justify its existence.
k8sToGo 2y ago
Earth cannot be pristine. In fact global warming isn't bad (or good) for earth. It's bad for humans. And what you describe as pristine is a state that is from the perspective of humanity. What I mean is earth doesn't "care" in what state it is in. It will just simply continue in whatever state it will be in. With or without humans.
- renjimen 2y ago
  Some pretty smart animals care about as much as we do when their habitat disappears.

airstrike 2y ago

People create value for shareholders because doing so creates value for themselves and their households. Humans brains are wired to hog resources at the expense of others. We generally share with our neighbor to the extent that helps us have more in the future. You can't weasel your way out of human nature. Also thinking we can write better laws if we start from scratch is typical hubris from someone who's never really studied Law. Just another variant of the most common SV syndrome.

mandmandam 2y ago
> thinking we can write better laws if we start from scratch is typical hubris from someone who's never really studied Law It is. However, looking at the US legal system as someone who isn't profiting from it, it's difficult to justify its existence.

k8sToGo 2y ago

Earth cannot be pristine. In fact global warming isn't bad (or good) for earth. It's bad for humans. And what you describe as pristine is a state that is from the perspective of humanity. What I mean is earth doesn't "care" in what state it is in. It will just simply continue in whatever state it will be in. With or without humans.

renjimen 2y ago
Some pretty smart animals care about as much as we do when their habitat disappears.