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Do you mean refined sugars and processed carbs, or carbs in general (i.e. going Keto)?

by oxag3n 2y ago

ldjkfkdsjnv 2y ago
Full keto
- NovemberWhiskey 2y ago
  But you eat vegetables?
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    Some vegetables are OK on keto IIRC. Leafy greens, asparagus, squash. Avoid the starchy ones.
  - swatcoder 2y ago
    Once started, your body will usually stay in ketosis even with a modest and non-trivial budget of carbs, on the order of maybe 10-20g, excluding fiber. That allows for a wide variety of veggie choices, as well as a some wiggle room for modest servings of nuts, legumes, beans, etc But basically there's no room at all for stuff like breads or rice or potatoes or sweetened drinks except as the finest accents. Never as the centerpiece of a meal. It's a very different way of living and eating, but can feel extremely invigorating and seems to be broadly healthy for most people.
- DiscourseFan 2y ago
  https://www.renalandurologynews.com/features/ketogenic-diet-potentially-harmful-especially-in-patients-with-ckd/ https://www.renalandurologynews.com/features/ketogenic-diet-... You're going to destroy your kidneys. Our bodies are evolved to eat mostly carbs, not protein. It may make your head "clear," but just because you feel good doesn't mean its a genuine improvement to your physical health.
  - tdpvb 2y ago
    Ha, man, this link is basically a dialysis industry propaganda page. Our bodies evolved to survive -- whether with or without glucose. And you liver makes whatever those your body needs, from far, if necessary. Also keep in mind, industrialized wheat products would've been hard to come by back in the stone age -- if you ate at all, depending on whether your hunt was successful.
    - hackernewds 2y ago
      potatoes are a carb. I don't get what your point is. we haven't been hunters only for a really long time, and even then the gatherers mostly got berries and sugars and fruits
    - DiscourseFan 2y ago
      Well the human body cannot survive without outside consumption of vitamin C because our ancestors consumed so many berries and leafy greens that we probably would poison ourselves otherwise. Your analysis is off, the human body is not infinitely adaptable. There are limits; running 5 miles a day is not going to completely offset heavy alcohol and tobacco consumption, but those with BMIs in the range of obesity who run 30 miles a week are far healthier than those who have a normal one but practice no physical exercise. We are perhaps experiencing, currently, a broad shift in the evolutionary history of humanity; I'm not an AI nut but one could argue that one reason why health is such a concern is because there are a number of adaptations at odds with one another at the social and biological levels. One could imagine that the completion of this arc would result in a new stasis of living patterns in the same way that hunter-gatherers persisted for almost 2 million years, and our current moment is just a brief one of upheaval.

Do you mean refined sugars and processed carbs, or carbs in general (i.e. going Keto)?

by oxag3n 2y ago

Do you mean refined sugars and processed carbs, or carbs in general (i.e. going Keto)?

ldjkfkdsjnv 2y ago

Full keto

NovemberWhiskey 2y ago
But you eat vegetables?
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Some vegetables are OK on keto IIRC. Leafy greens, asparagus, squash. Avoid the starchy ones.
- swatcoder 2y ago
  Once started, your body will usually stay in ketosis even with a modest and non-trivial budget of carbs, on the order of maybe 10-20g, excluding fiber. That allows for a wide variety of veggie choices, as well as a some wiggle room for modest servings of nuts, legumes, beans, etc But basically there's no room at all for stuff like breads or rice or potatoes or sweetened drinks except as the finest accents. Never as the centerpiece of a meal. It's a very different way of living and eating, but can feel extremely invigorating and seems to be broadly healthy for most people.
DiscourseFan 2y ago
https://www.renalandurologynews.com/features/ketogenic-diet-potentially-harmful-especially-in-patients-with-ckd/ https://www.renalandurologynews.com/features/ketogenic-diet-... You're going to destroy your kidneys. Our bodies are evolved to eat mostly carbs, not protein. It may make your head "clear," but just because you feel good doesn't mean its a genuine improvement to your physical health.
- tdpvb 2y ago
  Ha, man, this link is basically a dialysis industry propaganda page. Our bodies evolved to survive -- whether with or without glucose. And you liver makes whatever those your body needs, from far, if necessary. Also keep in mind, industrialized wheat products would've been hard to come by back in the stone age -- if you ate at all, depending on whether your hunt was successful.
  - hackernewds 2y ago
    potatoes are a carb. I don't get what your point is. we haven't been hunters only for a really long time, and even then the gatherers mostly got berries and sugars and fruits
  - DiscourseFan 2y ago
    Well the human body cannot survive without outside consumption of vitamin C because our ancestors consumed so many berries and leafy greens that we probably would poison ourselves otherwise. Your analysis is off, the human body is not infinitely adaptable. There are limits; running 5 miles a day is not going to completely offset heavy alcohol and tobacco consumption, but those with BMIs in the range of obesity who run 30 miles a week are far healthier than those who have a normal one but practice no physical exercise. We are perhaps experiencing, currently, a broad shift in the evolutionary history of humanity; I'm not an AI nut but one could argue that one reason why health is such a concern is because there are a number of adaptations at odds with one another at the social and biological levels. One could imagine that the completion of this arc would result in a new stasis of living patterns in the same way that hunter-gatherers persisted for almost 2 million years, and our current moment is just a brief one of upheaval.