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This article is pure conjecture and doesn’t have anything to back up the title beyond “these brands also happen to use mediatek” and making a tenuous link betwe

by dagmx 2y ago

This article is pure conjecture and doesn’t have anything to back up the title beyond “these brands also happen to use mediatek” and making a tenuous link between their Chromebook products and the Digit system.

teleforce 2y ago
There's also Lenovo with their upcoming Qualcomm Snapdragon X based desktop [1]. Between Qualcomm and Mediatek they produced probably more than 90% world's smartphone. If they start selling Linux desktops they will probably very popular if they have comparable performance with mainstream x86 based desktops but with more affordable price. [1] Lenovo announces world’s first mini desktop PCs powered by Snapdragon X chips: https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/desktop-computers/lenovo-announces-worlds-first-mini-desktop-pcs-powered-by-snapdragon-x-chips https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/desktop-computers/lenovo...
- pjmlp 2y ago
  We have already seen how this goes with EEE PCs, Chromebooks and Android. Don't expect your favourite distribution to be there instead of OEM XYZ Linux, that it will have zero binary blobs, or it will be routinely updated. And even if the hardware happens to be Linux friendly, other distros will need to reverse engineer as always.
  - teleforce 2y ago
    > We have already seen how this goes with EEE PCs, Chromebooks and Android Chromebooks (web based) and Android (smartphone) are not desktop oriented, while EEE PCs were non-performance devices mainly designed for Windows, its Linux version is an afterthought secondary product by Asus.
    - pjmlp 2y ago
      So agreeing that OEMs don't really care much about Linux Desktop experience quality, nor put that much effort into it.
      - teleforce 2y ago
        It's apple to orange comparison with Eee PCs, Chromebooks and Android. For OEMs it's basically a demand and supply problem. If more users demand for desktop Linux as more performant desktop hardware available, then they start to make effort on the quality. We already see this in the cloud market where majority are Linux servers and the quality of the OEMs for servers now far surpass of Windows and BSDs. If majority of desktop users are using Linux the OEMs will ensure the quality is there for the users as they follow where the money is. Even now Nvidia is courting Linux on the GPU sides and now on the desktop sides as the article is referring to. As Linux also moving inroads to in-vehicle entertainment the computer vendors including Nvidia will up their game accordingly [1]. [1] Automotive Grade Linux Launches New Expert Group Led by Toyota: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42423199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42423199

by dagmx 2y ago

teleforce 2y ago

There's also Lenovo with their upcoming Qualcomm Snapdragon X based desktop [1]. Between Qualcomm and Mediatek they produced probably more than 90% world's smartphone. If they start selling Linux desktops they will probably very popular if they have comparable performance with mainstream x86 based desktops but with more affordable price. [1] Lenovo announces world’s first mini desktop PCs powered by Snapdragon X chips: https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/desktop-computers/lenovo-announces-worlds-first-mini-desktop-pcs-powered-by-snapdragon-x-chips https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/desktop-computers/lenovo...

pjmlp 2y ago
We have already seen how this goes with EEE PCs, Chromebooks and Android. Don't expect your favourite distribution to be there instead of OEM XYZ Linux, that it will have zero binary blobs, or it will be routinely updated. And even if the hardware happens to be Linux friendly, other distros will need to reverse engineer as always.
- teleforce 2y ago
  > We have already seen how this goes with EEE PCs, Chromebooks and Android Chromebooks (web based) and Android (smartphone) are not desktop oriented, while EEE PCs were non-performance devices mainly designed for Windows, its Linux version is an afterthought secondary product by Asus.
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    So agreeing that OEMs don't really care much about Linux Desktop experience quality, nor put that much effort into it.
    - teleforce 2y ago
      It's apple to orange comparison with Eee PCs, Chromebooks and Android. For OEMs it's basically a demand and supply problem. If more users demand for desktop Linux as more performant desktop hardware available, then they start to make effort on the quality. We already see this in the cloud market where majority are Linux servers and the quality of the OEMs for servers now far surpass of Windows and BSDs. If majority of desktop users are using Linux the OEMs will ensure the quality is there for the users as they follow where the money is. Even now Nvidia is courting Linux on the GPU sides and now on the desktop sides as the article is referring to. As Linux also moving inroads to in-vehicle entertainment the computer vendors including Nvidia will up their game accordingly [1]. [1] Automotive Grade Linux Launches New Expert Group Led by Toyota: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42423199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42423199