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Additional Context: The Getty Villa which is on the border of Malibu and Pacific Palisades was the structure that was threatened by fire directly. This article

Additional Context: The Getty Villa which is on the border of Malibu and Pacific Palisades was the structure that was threatened by fire directly. This article is about the Getty Center which lies in Brentwood and fires did not reach it. Center: 1200 Getty Center Drive, Los Angeles, CA 90049 Villa: 17985 Pacific Coast Highway, Pacific Palisades, CA 90272

sbuttgereit 2y ago
The reason this article is likely appearing now is because the Getty Center proper is currently in a zone which is under evacuation orders: "The Getty Center, situated in Brentwood, draws 1.8 million visitors annually and houses hundreds of centuries-old art pieces from renowned artists such as Van Gogh, Rembrandt and Monet. But even though as of Saturday, the center was included in a mandatory evacuation zone as a result of the Palisades Fire expansion into Brentwood, the center insisted its campus is the "safest place possible" for its massive art collection." https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/heres-how-the-getty-centers-design-protects-it-against-wildfires/3602278/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/heres-how-the-getty... This news report links the the article posted. As of my check right now (1/12/25, noon Pacific Time), the Palisades Fire is still only 11% contained, so it's not yet over.
- mycentstoo 2y ago
  Oh I know, I live very close to there. I just wanted to add insight for those that might not be familiar with those being two separate things.
- fmajid 2y ago
  Will it remain the safest place if there are no people left on-site to staff the fire-protection mechanisms because of a mandatory evacuation order?
  - bugglebeetle 2y ago
    The Getty has an endowment in the billions and an entire team devoted to this that is permitted to be on site, coordinates with local fire and police services, etc. The entire center is also built into the hillside, with fireproof vaults in the underground levels, so there is no real risk to any of the collections.
    - WalterBright 2y ago
      If people evacuate before putting the art in the vaults, the vaults won't work. Remember the Titanic when the life boats left half full?
      - bugglebeetle 2y ago
        > The Getty has […] an entire team devoted to this that is permitted to be on site.
        cge 2y ago
        Yes: you can notice this, for example, in the announcements they put out while the area around the Getty Villa evacuated and then burned, where they pointed out that non-emergency staff had evacuated. Similarly, I think JPL always had (emergency) staff present, and their own firefighting resources. Having heard about wildfire policies for some high-profile institutions in fire-prone areas, they'll often have their own procedures, in coordination with local authorities, which may not involve evacuating when others do, and may involve people coming to the site when others are evacuating.
        DiscourseFan 2y ago
        I imagine they have a number of life-support systems to ensure the staff can hang out in the building for a while in case of a severe natural disaster.
      - mystified5016 2y ago
        "Yeah and what if you just forget to use your fancy equipment? Not so smart now, huh?!" You totally showed them
- varelse 2y ago
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DidYaWipe 2y ago
Yep. The Getty Villa was threatened, and is not discussed in the linked article. I enjoy the villa at least as much as the main center. It would be a huge loss.

sbuttgereit 2y ago

The reason this article is likely appearing now is because the Getty Center proper is currently in a zone which is under evacuation orders: "The Getty Center, situated in Brentwood, draws 1.8 million visitors annually and houses hundreds of centuries-old art pieces from renowned artists such as Van Gogh, Rembrandt and Monet. But even though as of Saturday, the center was included in a mandatory evacuation zone as a result of the Palisades Fire expansion into Brentwood, the center insisted its campus is the "safest place possible" for its massive art collection." https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/heres-how-the-getty-centers-design-protects-it-against-wildfires/3602278/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/heres-how-the-getty... This news report links the the article posted. As of my check right now (1/12/25, noon Pacific Time), the Palisades Fire is still only 11% contained, so it's not yet over.

mycentstoo 2y ago
Oh I know, I live very close to there. I just wanted to add insight for those that might not be familiar with those being two separate things.
fmajid 2y ago
Will it remain the safest place if there are no people left on-site to staff the fire-protection mechanisms because of a mandatory evacuation order?
- bugglebeetle 2y ago
  The Getty has an endowment in the billions and an entire team devoted to this that is permitted to be on site, coordinates with local fire and police services, etc. The entire center is also built into the hillside, with fireproof vaults in the underground levels, so there is no real risk to any of the collections.
  - WalterBright 2y ago
    If people evacuate before putting the art in the vaults, the vaults won't work. Remember the Titanic when the life boats left half full?
    - bugglebeetle 2y ago
      > The Getty has […] an entire team devoted to this that is permitted to be on site.
      - cge 2y ago
        Yes: you can notice this, for example, in the announcements they put out while the area around the Getty Villa evacuated and then burned, where they pointed out that non-emergency staff had evacuated. Similarly, I think JPL always had (emergency) staff present, and their own firefighting resources. Having heard about wildfire policies for some high-profile institutions in fire-prone areas, they'll often have their own procedures, in coordination with local authorities, which may not involve evacuating when others do, and may involve people coming to the site when others are evacuating.
        DiscourseFan 2y ago
        I imagine they have a number of life-support systems to ensure the staff can hang out in the building for a while in case of a severe natural disaster.
    - mystified5016 2y ago
      "Yeah and what if you just forget to use your fancy equipment? Not so smart now, huh?!" You totally showed them
varelse 2y ago
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DidYaWipe 2y ago

Yep. The Getty Villa was threatened, and is not discussed in the linked article. I enjoy the villa at least as much as the main center. It would be a huge loss.