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It raises the question: Where are things like arsenic and cadmium coming from? Is it in the brown rice to begin with? If so, why?

SoftTalker 2y ago
Pollution, and depending on location it could be from naturally occurring deposits.
- jpmattia 2y ago
  Same question as in the other comment: Are warnings issued about the protein powders but not the original rice the powder is made from?
hollerith 2y ago
Plants must extract nutrients from the soil. An important such nutrient is phosphorus. Because arsenic is chemically similar to phosphorus, any arsenic in the soil will get extracted also, ending up in the plant. The soil in Louisiana and Arkansas, which is good for growing rice, happens to be high in (naturally-occurring) arsenic.
- andhuman 2y ago
  Important to note is that when arsenic is in rice, a lot of it is organic arsenic and therefore not easily picked up by the body like inorganic arsenic.
- jpmattia 2y ago
  So is the rice itself also high in arsenic/cadmium? ie, are people issuing warnings about the protein powders but not the original material the powder is made from?
  - hollerith 2y ago
    Rice grown in Louisiana and Arkansas (i.e., most rice grown in the US) is indeed high in arsenic. My guess is that the protein powders are made from brown rice or even rice bran and rice germ whereas most rice in the US is eaten as white rice (i.e., rice without bran or germ). I'm guessing that makes a difference. Also, if you cook rice as if it were pasta (i.e., in much more water than needed, which is then discarded at the end of cooking) as recommended by the USDA, the amount of arsenic is cut in half. The manufacturers of protein powders probably don't bother to process the rice this way (whereas I do when I cook rice).
    - jpmattia 2y ago
      It sounds like there should be warnings on the raw elements of protein powders, not just the powders, which makes me think (adjusts tinfoil hat to filter proper wavelengths) that the issue raised by the original article is more about FUD and selling their version of protein powder.
      - hollerith 2y ago
        Maybe, maybe not: there is not a lot of protein in rice, and it might be that whatever process is used to extract the protein from the rice also extracts most of the arsenic and that the process of making white rice (again, the kind most Americans eat) gets rid of most of the arsenic, making rice-protein powder much higher in arsenic than the same amount of calories of white rice.

SoftTalker 2y ago

Pollution, and depending on location it could be from naturally occurring deposits.

jpmattia 2y ago
Same question as in the other comment: Are warnings issued about the protein powders but not the original rice the powder is made from?

hollerith 2y ago

Plants must extract nutrients from the soil. An important such nutrient is phosphorus. Because arsenic is chemically similar to phosphorus, any arsenic in the soil will get extracted also, ending up in the plant. The soil in Louisiana and Arkansas, which is good for growing rice, happens to be high in (naturally-occurring) arsenic.

andhuman 2y ago
Important to note is that when arsenic is in rice, a lot of it is organic arsenic and therefore not easily picked up by the body like inorganic arsenic.
jpmattia 2y ago
So is the rice itself also high in arsenic/cadmium? ie, are people issuing warnings about the protein powders but not the original material the powder is made from?
- hollerith 2y ago
  Rice grown in Louisiana and Arkansas (i.e., most rice grown in the US) is indeed high in arsenic. My guess is that the protein powders are made from brown rice or even rice bran and rice germ whereas most rice in the US is eaten as white rice (i.e., rice without bran or germ). I'm guessing that makes a difference. Also, if you cook rice as if it were pasta (i.e., in much more water than needed, which is then discarded at the end of cooking) as recommended by the USDA, the amount of arsenic is cut in half. The manufacturers of protein powders probably don't bother to process the rice this way (whereas I do when I cook rice).
  - jpmattia 2y ago
    It sounds like there should be warnings on the raw elements of protein powders, not just the powders, which makes me think (adjusts tinfoil hat to filter proper wavelengths) that the issue raised by the original article is more about FUD and selling their version of protein powder.
    - hollerith 2y ago
      Maybe, maybe not: there is not a lot of protein in rice, and it might be that whatever process is used to extract the protein from the rice also extracts most of the arsenic and that the process of making white rice (again, the kind most Americans eat) gets rid of most of the arsenic, making rice-protein powder much higher in arsenic than the same amount of calories of white rice.