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I prefer the public accountability of corporations as opposed to anything else. It’s more honest, and is one of the few things regular folks can do that leaves

I prefer the public accountability of corporations as opposed to anything else. It’s more honest, and is one of the few things regular folks can do that leaves a very obvious paper trail if something goes sideways. I would say this is a positive development for society. Corporations have benefitted for too long by cultivating fear of speaking out. I’m glad it’s changing. I genuinely don’t understand why this is a bad thing

bloomingkales 2y ago
Because at scale it creates a culture of whiny little shits that take on this ridiculous world view and are toxic with their Histrionics. Quite frankly they don't shut the fuck up, and they need a healthy shut the fuck up you are not that important, get over yourself. This job isn't a fit? Move on.
- no_wizard 2y ago
  If something isn’t a good fit it doesn’t mean that the work place or boss gets to justify being toxic and then claim “well they weren’t a good fit” I’ve worked in roles that were very much not a good fit but I wasn’t treated bad at the same time, it was simply clear there was a mismatch. They aren’t the same thing at all. Accountability is extremely important and it must run both ways. Corporate culture has been top down for far too long
  - bloomingkales 2y ago
    Today the 34-year-old has more than 80,000 followers. A few times a week she publishes a post — often several hundred words — and a selfie in which she's holding up a whiteboard with a handwritten summary of that post, like "A toxic boss will use a performance improvement plan to control you, not to help you." A toxic boss, she writes in one post, will "shower you with praise when you meet their expectations but withhold recognition" and "exploit your fear of failure to push you beyond reasonable limits." Each post typically gets thousands of comments (most empathetic, some disparaging) from workers around the world. Listen to the story. This person's entire identity is now THIS. She is now the anti-work-bosses-are-bad-gimme-my-80k-followers. Two wrongs don't make a right. I cannot support this nonsense. If you can't see the phenomenon here at scale, then we're truly at odds and I can't see a middle ground between our camps.
    - howenterprisey 2y ago
      That's a pure strawman and unrelated to what everyone else is talking about.
    - no_wizard 2y ago
      These are all behaviors of a toxic boss and/or toxic workplace. I’ve been doing this long enough I’ve had to endure these things, and this is accurate to those experiences. It’s no secret that, for example, once you’re on a PIP you generally should be looking for a new job as you aren’t meant to ever move past it. This is common industry advice and has been for decades
- liamwire 2y ago
  You seem quite emotional about this. Is there something more to your argument against this other than your feelings about how others address their grievances in an unequal power structure?
  - bloomingkales 2y ago
    Sure, long story short is that I was exactly this person. I didn't publicly air the grievances, but the toxicity ate me inside. It took awhile to get perspective on that everyone is just a person and doing their best. I'm lucky to have a job, I'm lucky to lose a job, I'm grateful. It takes so long to understand you build a web of persecution in your mind because you are emotionally immature. This is standard shit that young people can go through. I've WRITTEN crazy diatribes like this and deleted it. I got it out for myself, but reflected on it carefully. I had to literally therapy myself out of just how self-important I became.
    - bokoharambe 2y ago
      You sound like you're projecting your own maladaptive worldview/attitude/lifestyle onto others. Maybe the culture is changing, and not everyone who is calling out bad behavior at various companies is as narcissistic as yourself? In fact, it would seem to me that, in your bitterness, you are still just as self-centered as those you're attempting to criticize.
      - bloomingkales 2y ago
        I speak the language of a narcissist and you understood it. The language of narcissism is in this article and I'm fluent. I'm a massive work in progress for sure, but I'm not going to sit around and act like I don't see what I was and am all around me. Narcissists are people too man, believe it or not. We literally need to work on ... not writing LinkedIn articles (or in my case HN posts).
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- r053bud 2y ago
  Remind me which company you work for? I’m going to avoid it at all costs if it hires people like you.

bloomingkales 2y ago

Because at scale it creates a culture of whiny little shits that take on this ridiculous world view and are toxic with their Histrionics. Quite frankly they don't shut the fuck up, and they need a healthy shut the fuck up you are not that important, get over yourself. This job isn't a fit? Move on.

no_wizard 2y ago
If something isn’t a good fit it doesn’t mean that the work place or boss gets to justify being toxic and then claim “well they weren’t a good fit” I’ve worked in roles that were very much not a good fit but I wasn’t treated bad at the same time, it was simply clear there was a mismatch. They aren’t the same thing at all. Accountability is extremely important and it must run both ways. Corporate culture has been top down for far too long
- bloomingkales 2y ago
  Today the 34-year-old has more than 80,000 followers. A few times a week she publishes a post — often several hundred words — and a selfie in which she's holding up a whiteboard with a handwritten summary of that post, like "A toxic boss will use a performance improvement plan to control you, not to help you." A toxic boss, she writes in one post, will "shower you with praise when you meet their expectations but withhold recognition" and "exploit your fear of failure to push you beyond reasonable limits." Each post typically gets thousands of comments (most empathetic, some disparaging) from workers around the world. Listen to the story. This person's entire identity is now THIS. She is now the anti-work-bosses-are-bad-gimme-my-80k-followers. Two wrongs don't make a right. I cannot support this nonsense. If you can't see the phenomenon here at scale, then we're truly at odds and I can't see a middle ground between our camps.
  - howenterprisey 2y ago
    That's a pure strawman and unrelated to what everyone else is talking about.
  - no_wizard 2y ago
    These are all behaviors of a toxic boss and/or toxic workplace. I’ve been doing this long enough I’ve had to endure these things, and this is accurate to those experiences. It’s no secret that, for example, once you’re on a PIP you generally should be looking for a new job as you aren’t meant to ever move past it. This is common industry advice and has been for decades
liamwire 2y ago
You seem quite emotional about this. Is there something more to your argument against this other than your feelings about how others address their grievances in an unequal power structure?
- bloomingkales 2y ago
  Sure, long story short is that I was exactly this person. I didn't publicly air the grievances, but the toxicity ate me inside. It took awhile to get perspective on that everyone is just a person and doing their best. I'm lucky to have a job, I'm lucky to lose a job, I'm grateful. It takes so long to understand you build a web of persecution in your mind because you are emotionally immature. This is standard shit that young people can go through. I've WRITTEN crazy diatribes like this and deleted it. I got it out for myself, but reflected on it carefully. I had to literally therapy myself out of just how self-important I became.
  - bokoharambe 2y ago
    You sound like you're projecting your own maladaptive worldview/attitude/lifestyle onto others. Maybe the culture is changing, and not everyone who is calling out bad behavior at various companies is as narcissistic as yourself? In fact, it would seem to me that, in your bitterness, you are still just as self-centered as those you're attempting to criticize.
    - bloomingkales 2y ago
      I speak the language of a narcissist and you understood it. The language of narcissism is in this article and I'm fluent. I'm a massive work in progress for sure, but I'm not going to sit around and act like I don't see what I was and am all around me. Narcissists are people too man, believe it or not. We literally need to work on ... not writing LinkedIn articles (or in my case HN posts).
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r053bud 2y ago
Remind me which company you work for? I’m going to avoid it at all costs if it hires people like you.