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Not necessarily. There are similar cases in other countries where the fire was well controlled. Might not be as similar as I thought, but I'm wondering if profe

Not necessarily. There are similar cases in other countries where the fire was well controlled. Might not be as similar as I thought, but I'm wondering if professionals can give an honest post mortem at least for this time.

leptons 2y ago
>There are similar cases in other countries where the fire was well controlled. Did they also have unprecedented 100mph wind gusts, and strong winds blowing for days? It's impossible to fly fire mitigation aircraft in those conditions, and the terrain where the fire was spreading the most were rugged mountain areas, mostly not accessible to firefighters.
- throw0101a 2y ago
  E.g., > “Without helicopters, this kind of a brush fire, we cannot stop it on the ground,” said Margaret Stewart, an LAFD spokeswoman. > Perhaps demonstrating what a difference aircraft can make, a fire that threatened the Hollywood Hills late Wednesday was quickly contained and limited to 43 acres. Calmer winds allowed aircraft to douse flames with water from nearby reservoirs. * https://archive.is/https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2025/01/10/la-fires-containment-winds-firefighter-challenges/ https://archive.is/https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/20...
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    Water scooped from reservoirs is less effective than you might think. When it is dropped, a good amount of it evaporates before it ever hits the ground. Most effective would be air drops of fire retardant, but neither can be done in high wind conditions.
    - throw0101a 2y ago
      > Water scooped from reservoirs is less effective than you might think. I'm guessing that water scooped from reservoirs is probably more effective than no water at all.
RangerScience 2y ago
> similar cases Can you provide specific citations? And.. normally, I might ask that for argumentative reasons, but… sitting here, south of Pasadena, I really want things to look at to understand what this might do to the place I live. Right now it’s my understanding that this is yet another once-in-a-lifetime disaster. I think our generation is at… five of these, at least?

leptons 2y ago

>There are similar cases in other countries where the fire was well controlled. Did they also have unprecedented 100mph wind gusts, and strong winds blowing for days? It's impossible to fly fire mitigation aircraft in those conditions, and the terrain where the fire was spreading the most were rugged mountain areas, mostly not accessible to firefighters.

throw0101a 2y ago
E.g., > “Without helicopters, this kind of a brush fire, we cannot stop it on the ground,” said Margaret Stewart, an LAFD spokeswoman. > Perhaps demonstrating what a difference aircraft can make, a fire that threatened the Hollywood Hills late Wednesday was quickly contained and limited to 43 acres. Calmer winds allowed aircraft to douse flames with water from nearby reservoirs. * https://archive.is/https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2025/01/10/la-fires-containment-winds-firefighter-challenges/ https://archive.is/https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/20...
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Water scooped from reservoirs is less effective than you might think. When it is dropped, a good amount of it evaporates before it ever hits the ground. Most effective would be air drops of fire retardant, but neither can be done in high wind conditions.
  - throw0101a 2y ago
    > Water scooped from reservoirs is less effective than you might think. I'm guessing that water scooped from reservoirs is probably more effective than no water at all.

RangerScience 2y ago

> similar cases Can you provide specific citations? And.. normally, I might ask that for argumentative reasons, but… sitting here, south of Pasadena, I really want things to look at to understand what this might do to the place I live. Right now it’s my understanding that this is yet another once-in-a-lifetime disaster. I think our generation is at… five of these, at least?