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"There are two genders." The belief comes from watching birds and bees. Now, say that in 2020 in a woke software organization.
by throw112312 2y ago
"There are two genders." The belief comes from watching birds and bees.
Now, say that in 2020 in a woke software organization.
- david-gpu 2y ago"I will put every person in precisely one out of two boxes at my discretion, and they will be happy about it". Example: "I believe there are two kinds of people in the world, the righteous and the despicable. You belong with the despicable, I decided. If you disagree, you are woke".
- rhasterx 2y agoThe amount of inferences and insinuations you draw is a perfect example of why the Chatham House Rule is needed. I wonder how biologists discuss the issue if one hypothesis is outright forbidden. Note also that Ketanji Brown Jackson evaded the question when asked in a hearing.
- saagarjha 2y agoThey do it just fine. People who show up with crank hypotheses that are repeatedly rejected by evidence are not outright forbidden but generally not super popular.
- watwut 2y agoBiologists would be the first one to correctly determine your sentence was not a biological hypotheses, but a political statement meant to declare your allegiance against trans rights and trans people. They would consequently treat it exactly the way people in this thread do - with assumption that you have ideological and political goals against that group of people.
- david-gpu 2y agoI used a made up but analogous example to see how the anti-trans rhetoric is intrinsically closed up to discussion. It is a group of people deciding unilaterally what other people are without room for any alternatives. Say what you want against trans people, but at least they only identify themselves and ask to be allowed to exist. Do you want to make an argument about bathrooms or sports whatever? Fine. But don't start it by de facto invalidating their existence, because that eliminates any room for a productive conversation.
- defrost 2y agoSaying that repeatedly in most settings gets tedious for the audience who'd wonder whether you're alright. Saying that any relevant technical setting as a newcomer would likely be received politely although many would then point out the ground truth behind that simplification: Nature has many examples of physical gender not being straightforward; egg tempreture determining development in crocadiles and other reptiles for one. Even in humans it's less that straightforward for a little over 1% of births and decidedly undecided even by experts with all the machines that beep for about a fiftieth of 1%. Banging on about it in online forums using throwaway accounts is simply being a sad wannabe edge lord type.
- vdarkin 2y ago> > "There are two genders." The belief comes from watching birds and bees. > Nature has many examples of physical gender not being straightforward; egg tempreture determining development in crocadiles and other reptiles for one. Temperature-dependent sex determination results in offspring of one sex or the other, so how does this refute the observation across species that there are two sexes? Please explain your reasoning.
- poincaredisk 2y agoI guess it contradicts the belief that sex is determined at conception? I don't know, I'm not familiar with crocodile biology. For humans specifically we not only have xx and xy, but also xxx, xyy, xxxx, xxyy, xxxxx, xxxxy, 46xy dsd. There is a de la Chapelle syndrome, persistent Müllerian duct syndrome and more. These are just the most obvious things that muddy the waters, and I don't really know much about that topic, but confidently saying "there are two genders and you can tell by watching birds and bees" is anti intellectual