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1. It's Fannie and Freddie, nobody uses the acronyms, but if you must it's FNMA and FHLMC. 2. The mortgage meltdown started with subprime loans, which were not
by santoshalper 2y ago
1. It's Fannie and Freddie, nobody uses the acronyms, but if you must it's FNMA and FHLMC.
2. The mortgage meltdown started with subprime loans, which were not guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie. It was private lenders selling loans to clients and then selling the mortgage-backed securities on the private investor market.
3. Fannie and Freddie were not under federal conservatorship at the time. They were regulated by the government as government sponsored entities (GSE) but were corporations with shareholders and profit motive. The regulation under the Bush administration was extremely lax. There was no FHFA or CFPB.
4. The real damage happened between 2001-2006. That's when option ARMs, pick-a-pay loans, and NINA/SISA (no documentation) loans were being made. The fact that these loans would age poorly was well understood in the industry. It was just assumed that continually rising property values would offset how genuinely terrible these loans were.
5. After the clusterfuck, Fannie and Freddie were brought into conservatorship by the federal government to prevent a repeat, and it has largely worked. The quality of mortgage paper is much, much higher than it was 20 years ago.
Yes, it was 100% stupid greed. And to be clear, nobody learned the lesson. The Trump administration is going to defang CFPB and probably bring Fannie and Freddie out of conservatorship. Another mortgage meltdown is a predictable outcome of this and I would expect it around 2032.
- nayuki 2y agoThank you, that was really helpful in correcting my understanding.
- steveBK123 2y agoReal estate pumper president pumping real estate seems like a very likely outcome yes.
- bormaj 2y ago> And to be clear, nobody learned the lesson. This is not true. The mortgage lending pipeline is quite different today compared to pre-GFC. There is considerably more due diligence required by lenders and banks in order to back loans. Conventional loans backed by the GSEs these days have a much higher quality control. If the originating lender lied to push the loan through or didn't due diligence, they'd be on the hook for paying the defaulted principal. > The Trump administration is going to defang CFPB and probably bring Fannie and Freddie out of conservatorship. I'm not aware of any chatter on the former and the latter is becoming discussed quite frequently. Though I'm not sure the GSEs are interested in a GFC 2.0 > Another mortgage meltdown is a predictable outcome of this and I would expect it around 2032. These days I would be more concerned about private credit than the mortgage market...